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MVFCSouthEnder wrote:afromanGT wrote:Geelong getting a fair bit of help from the umpires tonight so far. Went to the game, umps were woefuland basically killed any chance we had whilst we were still in reach, but full credit to Geelong they were still the better side and deserved the win Geelong didn't kick into gear until the third quarter. The first half, if it weren't for the umpires, Essendon would probably have been in front. Quote:The Swans will be playing for fat women everywhere.
In seriousness though, the StKilda players were right. Lose some fucking weight you goddamn idiots. You're a fuckhead. Who the hell are you to tell some woman who you haven't even laid eyes on that she should lose weight? Worth a sneaky bet on a Hawks-Swans grand final IMO.
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lol. Thanks for the personal attacks guys. You should know better Afro. Though I suppose you can get easily offended... so I should expect it.
Well really, women should (Men also for that matter) expect to be called fat if they're fat. Just telling it like it is shouldn't be frowned upon.
Maybe fat lazy assholes/bitches could take all the name calling in a positive way and lose some weight and eat healthily. Nope... they oh so often play the victim and just want people to lie to their faces.
Whatever, be fat if you like, but don't expect people to like it. I sure as hell don't. Particularly when fat women repulse me.
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afromanGT
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Quote:Well really, women should (Men also for that matter) expect to be called fat if they're fat. Just telling it like it is shouldn't be frowned upon. That's beside the point. How do you know they were fat? Y'know, other than from the word of a couple of St Kilda players.
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Fredsta
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socceroossupporter wrote:Well really, women should (Men also for that matter) expect to be called fat if they're fat. Just telling it like it is shouldn't be frowned upon.
Maybe fat lazy assholes/bitches could take all the name calling in a positive way and lose some weight and eat healthily. Nope... they oh so often play the victim and just want people to lie to their faces
Fucking hell that's stupid :lol: Let's apply the same logic and call all gays and lesbians 'faggots' in the hope of turning them straight. While I'm at it I might just 'tell it how it is' to a few 'nigger's' I know and hope they seek pigment transplants.
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Fredsta wrote:socceroossupporter wrote:Well really, women should (Men also for that matter) expect to be called fat if they're fat. Just telling it like it is shouldn't be frowned upon.
Maybe fat lazy assholes/bitches could take all the name calling in a positive way and lose some weight and eat healthily. Nope... they oh so often play the victim and just want people to lie to their faces
Fucking hell that's stupid :lol: Let's apply the same logic and call all gays and lesbians 'faggots' in the hope of turning them straight. While I'm at it I might just 'tell it how it is' to a few 'nigger's' I know and hope they seek pigment transplants. Well that all depends on your personal opinion on whether being gay or black is a bad thing. You seem to think it is I take it? Given how you're comparing being fat/overweight/being unhealthy to being gay and black? Also you can help it if you're fat. It's all about lifestyle. Being gay or African is something you cannot help. Therefore they're completely different things. (Unless you think being gay is a lifestyle choice?)
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Well really, women should (Men also for that matter) expect to be called fat if they're fat. Just telling it like it is shouldn't be frowned upon. That's beside the point. How do you know they were fat? Y'know, other than from the word of a couple of St Kilda players. Oh I wouldn't trust StKilda players for a second. I'm only assuming they can tell the difference between someone who's fat and someone who's skinny. An assumption I guess but a fairly justified one. I don't see why they would just lie about it.
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MidfieldMaestro
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Very important win today. Was checking the score on my phone when I was out and it wasn't looking good at quarter time but was stoked when I checked the final score.
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Didn't get a great look at the Swans today but I did happen to notice that Mumford was subbed in the 2nd quarter I think, to win with only Mike Pyke is a huge effort
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Dissapointing loss to North. Great game though but now finals is looking like hard work
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afromanGT
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socceroossupporter wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:Well really, women should (Men also for that matter) expect to be called fat if they're fat. Just telling it like it is shouldn't be frowned upon. That's beside the point. How do you know they were fat? Y'know, other than from the word of a couple of St Kilda players. Oh I wouldn't trust StKilda players for a second. I'm only assuming they can tell the difference between someone who's fat and someone who's skinny. An assumption I guess but a fairly justified one. I don't see why they would just lie about it. You're assuming that the girl was obese, instead of just not fitting the standards of exiguous women that society heralds as 'hot' and thus labelled 'fat' though. Great win by the Roo boys this weekend, and with 2 games ahead against the Demons and Bulldogs we're in a great position...and then there's the crunch matches against Essendon, Collingwood and Fremantle. Need to win 3/5 for finals footy.
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Quote:Southern Football League cancels junior under-age football carnivals by: Lia Harris and Gordon Armstrong From: Southern Times Messenger July 24, 2012 Back chat to umpires in the AFL is common place but the Southern Football League says abuse of umpires by parents and onlookers at its junior games has gotten out of hand. WIDESPREAD abuse of young umpires at its junior matches has led the Southern Football League to cancel three carnivals this year. The SFL's board of directors recently voted to call off its 2012 Under-8, Under-10 and Under-12 carnivals because it considered the incidence of complaints by young umpires about verbal abuse too high. SFL president Craig Warman said half of the league's 15 clubs had been called to appear before the Investigation's Committee in relation to incidents at Sunday Mini League matches this year. Mr Warman said most of the cases related to verbal abuse against young umpires by parents and bystanders, not young players. "There have been quite a few incidents this season in Mini League games which the league has had to investigate," Mr Warman said. "It was mainly the verbal abuse of young umpires, not physical." The carnivals were due to be staged at Lonsdale Lions and Hackham football clubs, in August. The board will conduct a review of the Mini League competitions for the 2013 season, but could not guarantee the carnivals would be put back in the schedule. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/southern-football-league-cancels-under-age-carnivals/story-e6frea83-1226433895633
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Tiges lose by a kick again...........
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Great win by Collingwood, I know its just GWS but we haven't really had a big win all season so any percentage booster we can get is great.
Also Dane Swan, just the lazy 37 touches and 5 goals, what an absolute freak
Disposals in his last three games 37, 49, 40, amazing numbers there, if Collingwood hit some form in the run home he will undoubtedly feature heavily and then he really could be a decent chance for successive Brownlow's.
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It was only GCS, but a good win nonetheless. Good to hear Mumford is back next week.
Back to number 1. :cool:
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Someone said that Richmond have had 10 games decided by under a kick and won just 1. That says a lot about their final quarter pressure, that's a disastrous record.
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Angry Blues crank attacks fan, 12UPDATE: A 12-YEAR-OLD was grabbed by the throat and abused with foul language for supporting his team at a weekend AFL match The abuse, which happened as Marcus Stephens stood in joy as Richmond hit the front in the last quarter during Saturday's MCG game, has been reported to police who are investigating the incident. A man barracking for Carlton grabbed Marcus hard around the throat and pushed him back into his seat. He then unloaded a string of profanities at the startled boy. Marcus said the incident had ruined his night. "After that, I didn't want to get up again,'' he said. Marcus said the man was aggressive all night, at one stage commenting "learn the f---in' rules, you idiot.'' Marcus' mother Dina said the man had no right to touch anyone at the footy, let alone a 12-year-old. "I was absolutely disgusted that he laid his hands on a boy, you know, on a child,” Ms Stephens told 3AW this morning. “You just don't go to the footy and do that to anyone, let alone a child. “The sad thing about it is he said: 'Look, I don't think I want to go and watch another match’.” Marcus had gone with a Carlton-supporting mate and his mother to the game. The mate's mother said the man had been using "revolting language'' most of the night. "I just didn't expect him to lay his hands on a 12-year-old boy," Mrs Stephens said. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/angry-blues-crank-attacks-fan-12/story-e6frf7kx-1226438614144
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Was at the game at it was the worst spectacle I had seen. Angry Richmond fans were pushing people, punching signs, throwing bins and screaming at the top of their lungs some very terrible things. Carlton fans were personally abusing Richmond players and screaming at families with Richmond scarves on, saying that 'your season is over, go kill yourselves' on the train. Working at the MCG I've seen a lot of games but Saturday night was disgusting.
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Not surprised by the Richmond anger but that it dispicable.
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Quote:AFL launches Demons tanking claim probe DateJuly 31, 2012 - 3:04PM The AFL has launched an investigation into claims made by former Melbourne midfielder Brock McLean that the Demons tanked in 2009. McLean had admitted winning was not a priority for the Demons during that controversial season under former coach Dean Bailey. Acting AFL chief executive officer Gill McLachlan said league operations manager Adrian Anderson would interview McLean, who is now at Carlton. "The AFL has resolved that this matter will be addressed by the general manager of football operations, Adrian Anderson," McLachlan said in a statement. McLean last night admitted winning games was not Melbourne's priority in 2009, when the Demons finished last and secured a priority pick plus the top pick in that year's national draft, which it then used to recruit Tom Scully and Jack Trengove. McLean was asked last night on Fox Footy's On the Couch whether winning had not been the priority for the Demons in Dean Bailey's second season as coach. McLean replied: "Definitely, and I think you would have to be blind freddy to not figure that one out. "When I sat down with Dean Bailey and made my decision [to leave], I brought that up with him. I told him what I really thought. We were both on the same page. I really felt for Bails because he was put in a difficult position. I was part of the leadership group that year. We spoke among ourselves, and said 'We just have to continue to toe the line, reinforce what the coaches are saying, not let Chinese whispers get into something bigger'." McLean played 94 games for Melbourne, but said last night the Demons' actions in 2009 had prompted his departure from the club. He joined Carlton for the following season. Melbourne president Don McLardy said the Demons backed the AFL's decision. "The Melbourne Football Club supports the decision by the AFL to interview Brock McLean in relation to comments he made on television last night," McLardy said. McLean's comments are the strongest admission yet that Melbourne had a focus other than winning in 2009, when it won just four games to secure back-to-back wooden spoons. The midfielder said he thought Bailey would have been under pressure from the club's administration to tank. Bailey was sacked last year and, during his farewell press conference, came close to admitting he had tanked games. He was questioned by AFL football operations general manager Adrian Anderson after these remarks, but the league never formally investigated the matter. Melbourne has won just two games this season and sits third-last on the ladder, ahead of the Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney. Scully played two seasons for the Demons before joining the Giants on a $6 million deal. Trengove is now one of Melbourne's co-captains. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-launches-demons-tanking-claim-probe-20120731-23bwz.html#ixzz22BsBz03x
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Amazing the AFL tacitly sanction tanking, in effect it is match fixing and everyone(media, clubs, coaches, players and supporters) allows it to happen turning a blind eye.
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Jeff White said something similar back in the early 00's and the AFL "investigated" before concluding that it "wasn't a widespread practice". I expect something similar this time.
This is the problem with the draft system, teams WILL throw games to get higher draft picks. It's been a part of NFL for years, but it's less of an issue because play-offs are determined by pools.
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Solutions to the problem?
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Quote:Call for funding justification BRETT STUBBS | July 31, 2012 12.01am A TASMANIAN parliamentarian is considering calling for an investigation over AFL Tasmania's use of taxpayer funds because of the inner-city licence battle. Huon Legislative Councillor and former SFL president Paul Harriss has labelled AFL Tasmania chief executive Scott Wade's style as dictatorial and questioned the value of public funding for the sport's governing body. "AFL Tasmania gets about $500,000 from Tasmanian taxpayers every year and I am not convinced of the value of that investment," he said. "Maybe it is about time Scott Wade was called to justify the use of those funds in truly developing the game. "I am considering a referral to parliament's Public Accounts Committee to inquire as to the value of that taxpayer investment." Yesterday, Hobart submitted its application for the inner-city licence. North Hobart is expected to follow up today. However, the Demons called for a "continuation" of their special general meeting last night after there was some initial confusion about a letter from AFL Tasmania chairman Dominic Baker outlining criteria in regard to changing the new club's brand. Harriss said Wade had a history of "bullying clubs". "AFL Tasmania chairman Dominic Baker has clipped Wade's wings on more than one occasion in the past when he was on a path of destroying relationships between AFL Tasmania and the three main regional leagues in the state and it is about time he called Wade to account again," Mr Harriss said. "Who does Scott Wade think he is to tell any club that he will approve the members of the club board? "And he has the temerity to suggest that such an approach is innovative." He called on other clubs to take action and not "let Scott Wade continually dictate his agenda because they all know from the past that they could be next on his hit list." Wade did not wish to respond to Mr Harriss publicly yesterday. "I refuse to respond to Paul's comments other to say he is entitled to his opinion," Wade said. http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2012/07/31/350341_sport-news.html
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aufc_ole wrote:Solutions to the problem? There is no solution in a league with draft picks as a recruitment process.
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Solution to the problem ? NBA system of draft pool . the team on the bottom can usually trade the first pick away for players, more draft picks and or later picks in drafts in the future .also the team on bottom can also have the 55 pick not the first .
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Solution to the problem ? NBA system of draft pool . the team on the bottom can usually trade the first pick away for players, more draft picks and or later picks in drafts in the future .also the team on bottom can also have the 55 pick not the first . No team on the bottom is going to trade away their number 1 pick. Ever. I think the only way you could possibly eliminate the problem is to make the draft order determined by a three year term of results, that way it's impractical to tank for draft picks because of the duration of the time period.
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afromanGT wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Solution to the problem ? NBA system of draft pool . the team on the bottom can usually trade the first pick away for players, more draft picks and or later picks in drafts in the future .also the team on bottom can also have the 55 pick not the first . No team on the bottom is going to trade away their number 1 pick. Ever. I think the only way you could possibly eliminate the problem is to make the draft order determined by a three year term of results, that way it's impractical to tank for draft picks because of the duration of the time period. The three year period was a good suggestion as far as the priority pick was concerned, but I'm not sure it's a good idea for determining the ranking for each annual draft. A lottery has been mentioned, and continues to get mentioned. I've always wondered whether a play-off in the first week of finals might work, i.e. 18th plays 17th for the right to earn the no. 1 pick, etc. - with time, it would become pointless hitting rock bottom because it only gives you a 50% chance of getting the no. 1 pick.
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I think a draft play-off could well see some of the worst football we've ever seen :lol:
If you're basing it around a 3 year period you're going to solve the problem and you don't have anything detracting from finals football. No team is going to tank for 3 years for the chance to get a #1 pick in ONE season.
A lottery is a shocking idea, it seems wrong that you could cripple a team for the better part of a decade based purely around them being unlucky.
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afromanGT wrote:If you're basing it around a 3 year period you're going to solve the problem and you don't have anything detracting from finals football. No team is going to tank for 3 years for the chance to get a #1 pick in ONE season.
The problem with the 3 year period is that you might get a team continuing to get high picks when it no longer deserves it (having had 2 bad years followed by a good year, for example), and then you might get a team that desperately needs high draft picks, after plummeting to the bottom after a couple of good years, because of retirements, for example. So I can't see the the 3 year period being introduced.
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AFL organising a combine in the US next month, they've produced this very slick video:
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