New $170m soccer stadium proposed in Dandenong by Team 11 franchise


New $170m soccer stadium proposed in Dandenong by Team 11 franchise

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New $170m soccer stadium proposed in Dandenong by Team 11 franchise

EXCLUSIVE: A $170 MILLION soccer stadium built in the heart of Dandenong is at the centre of plans to transform Melbourne’s southeast.

The 15,000-seat ground would be home to the A-League’s 11th franchise and a W-League team, and would host concerts, festivals, and NRL and rugby union games.

Businessman and Dandenong local Gerry Ryan said the concept would revitalise the region through the creation of jobs and investment.

“This is a game-changer for the city of Dandenong and for the southeast of Victoria,” Mr Ryan told the Herald Sun. “We want to provide our children — and all members of our culturally diverse community — a cause they can unite behind, be inspired by and feel connected to.

“A football team playing out of a venue such as this would do just that.” The site of the stadium — just 100m from the Dandenong train station — will be gifted by the Greater Dandenong Council.

The council and a “Team 11” steering committee is working with Development Victoria on concepts but state government funds are yet to be committed.

A significant revitalisation project in Melbourne’s southeast could be a critical vote-winner in November’s state election, with nine marginal seats in the region — seven held by Labor and two by the Coalition.

The southeast bid team is competing against the South Melbourne Football Club, a third group from Melbourne’s western suburbs and eight interstate consortiums for two new A-League licences.

A decision will be made by Football Federation Australia in October.

Construction of “Dandenong Stadium” — designed by Cox Architecture, creator of Melbourne’s AAMI Park — is predicated on Team 11 being admitted into the A-League. Its initial capacity is slated at 12,000-15,000 with the ability to expand to 20,000. The City of Casey and Cardinia Shire Council have also backed the plan.

Socceroos legend and Team 11 ambassador Vince Grella said the stadium would boast an intimacy to rival all others.

“Football fans in Australia have been crying out for boutique venues in which to house our clubs — Dandenong Stadium is perfect,” Grella said. “There are more people playing football than any other sport.

“Not only will Team 11 be able to enjoy this facility, but the potential for Socceroos, Matildas and youth internationals to be played here is very real, as well as local club games and regional gala events and tournaments.”

The state government committed $260 million to revitalising Dandenong’s city centre 12 years ago.

The proposal is being pitched as stage two of a plan to re-establish Dandenong as the capital of the state’s southeast.

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Streaming announcement live now on the team 11 Facebook page.
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They should go with the name “South Melbourne” ... might pick up a few Greek supporters too
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Colours and name will be up to community/ public vote. Likely to happen after team bid is accepted.

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I was just being mischievous Mark.

Any bid that builds football infrastructure should get a priority imo.
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From the bid's site:

Dandenong Stadium Plans Announced

Melbourne’s south-east will be home to one of Australia’s most accessible sport and entertainment venues if its bid for A-League and W-League admission is successful.

The prime location of Cheltenham Road, next to Dandenong Train Station, has been confirmed as the site of Team 11’s proposed stadium build.

Concepts designed by Cox Architecture – designers of Melbourne’s AAMI Park – has Dandenong Stadium capacity initially slated in the range of 12,000-15,000, with the ability to expand to 20,000 in the future.

The site, less than 100m walk from one of Victoria’s busiest train and bus stations and within five kilometres of the Monash Freeway and EastLink, will provide for easy access from all corners of Victoria’s south-east.

Australian business icon and Dandenong local Gerry Ryan, the founder and owner of Jayco Caravans, said, given the proposed location, the stadium would revitalise Dandenong and revolutionise the wider south-east Melbourne region through the creation of jobs and injection of commercial investment.

Ryan also said there would be profound social impacts on the community.

“This is a game-changer for the city of Dandenong and for the south-east of Victoria,” Ryan said.

“We want to provide our children – and all members of our culturally diverse community – a cause they can unite behind, be inspired by and feel connected to. A football team playing out of a venue such as this would do just that.

“To also have community and education programs running from the stadium in partnership with local tertiary, training and not-for-profit organisations would ensure our residents benefit significantly from this development.”

Dandenong-born Simon McKeon, chair of the South East Melbourne group of councils, said south-east Melbourne is crying out for a professional sporting club to train and play here.

“There are more than 1.2 million people living in south-east Melbourne and families would love the opportunity to come together with the wider community to support a team they can identify strongly with and watch playplay at a purpose-built stadium,” McKeon said.

McKeon said the region provides a large, ready-made army of diverse, enthusiastic supporters who already love the world game.

“It’s a no-brainer,” McKeon said. “The beautiful game would find a perfect home among a massive group of professional supporters at an easily accessible location next to Dandenong Train Station.”

Various funding options for the stadium build are being explored, with Development Victoria, Ernst and Young, Cox Architecture and Greater Dandenong Council working together on development plans for the site.

The stadium build is predicated on Team 11 being admitted into the A-League.

Socceroos legend and Team 11 ambassador Vince Grella said the new club would be playing at a football-specific venue with an intimacy that would rival all others in the country. There are also safe standing provisions for active home fans.

“Football fans in Australia have been crying out for boutique venues in which to house our clubs. Dandenong Stadium is perfect,” Grella said.

“There are more people playing football than any other sport in this country. The game deserves venues such as this.

“Not only will Team 11 be able to enjoy this facility, but the potential for Socceroos, Matildas and youth internationals to be played here is very real, as well as local club games and regional gala events and tournaments.”

The land proposed for the stadium is owned by the City of Greater Dandenong.

Greater Dandenong Councillor and Team 11 steering committee member Jim Memeti said the unveiling of stadium plans demonstrates the seriousness of the region’s bid, spearheaded by the Greater Dandenong, City of Casey and Cardinia Shire councils.

“With Greater Dandenong being the most multicultural municipality in Australia, football is the No.1 sport of choice for our residents and so it is fitting that a rectangular venue would sit pride of place in the heart of our Central Business District,” Cr Memeti said.

“But this stadium is not just about the creation of what can be an enormous football club, this will be a prized asset for our region, catering for a wide range of sporting events, multicultural festivals, concerts and functions.”


https://www.weareteam11.com/dandenong-stadium-plans-announced/


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Now that is a good proposal.
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I’m starting to think Brisbane 2’s chances are dimming somewhat though; assuming south Sydney are in I’d say Wolves and this bid are head and shoulders above FCBC and Strikers stealth bid.
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Is this conditional on the team having a guaranteed spot in the league for the next century or will they have to earn their spot by continual investment and effort?

I don't think development of a local stadium is apt reward for a permanent spot in a league. We have seen teams drop off before

Take CCM for instance. Yes they have built a venue for youth development or whatever but they have been non competitive for 4 years and continue to squat on a spot that could easily go to another team

The AFL as a closed off invitational only league needs a model for choosing long term candidates. This has never worked for our game




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Expand to 14, these bids are delicious 
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bluebird - 30 Apr 2018 11:09 AM
Is this conditional on the team having a guaranteed spot in the league for the next century or will they have to earn their spot by continual investment and effort?

I don't think development of a local stadium is apt reward for a permanent spot in a league. We have seen teams drop off before

Take CCM for instance. Yes they have built a venue for youth development or whatever but they have been non competitive for 4 years and continue to squat on a spot that could easily go to another team

The AFL as a closed off invitational only league needs a model for choosing long term candidates. This has never worked for our game

I thought you were an advocate of not all teams need to be equal. Or do you just make it up as you go along?
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Great location next to Dandenong Station, even better than the showgrounds as it'll be easier to hit the bars and restaurants etc.

If they can get this stadium up they're the front-runner for the next A-League spot, hands down.

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bluebird - 30 Apr 2018 11:09 AM
Is this conditional on the team having a guaranteed spot in the league for the next century or will they have to earn their spot by continual investment and effort?

I don't think development of a local stadium is apt reward for a permanent spot in a league. We have seen teams drop off before

Take CCM for instance. Yes they have built a venue for youth development or whatever but they have been non competitive for 4 years and continue to squat on a spot that could easily go to another team

The AFL as a closed off invitational only league needs a model for choosing long term candidates. This has never worked for our game

Oh look some more bluebird intellectual-sounding cynicism 
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City Sam - 30 Apr 2018 11:11 AM
bluebird - 30 Apr 2018 11:09 AM

I thought you were an advocate of not all teams need to be equal. Or do you just make it up as you go along?

Of course they don't have to be equal they just have to earn their fucking spot in the league or be replaced by a tier 2 team






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marconi101 - 30 Apr 2018 11:09 AM
Expand to 14, these bids are delicious 

nay expand to 16 ...

one of the Brisbane bids
the two Sydney bids
Gong
Casey / Dand
Adl City

Thats 6

Then out with the Nix in with South Melbourne.




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Called it six years ago: http://forum.insidesport.com.au/FindPost1615717.aspx


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Midfielder - 30 Apr 2018 11:19 AM
marconi101 - 30 Apr 2018 11:09 AM

nay expand to 16 ...

one of the Brisbane bids
the two Sydney bids
Gong
Casey / Dand
Adl City

Thats 6

Then out with the Nix in with South Melbourne.




Realistically only 2-3 spots are up for grabs, its between southern expansion, the plastic version of brisbane city and this team11 thing. You would have to be delusional to think the likes of wolves, sm and adl city have a chance under the current model.
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bluebird - 30 Apr 2018 11:19 AM
City Sam - 30 Apr 2018 11:11 AM

Of course they don't have to be equal they just have to earn their fucking spot in the league or be replaced by a tier 2 team



Well we still need to expand the first division and apparently a club who could be hovering near the bottom their bid should be rejected? So the only criteria which fits for you would be another imaginary big city CBD team and forget about the fact they'd run at a loss renting a stadium to big for the fans they won't have.
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paladisious - 30 Apr 2018 11:22 AM

top idea

everyone trawl through 6 years of posts , see if anyone mentioned anything slightly like what some Journo's running this week.

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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marconi101 - 30 Apr 2018 11:09 AM
Expand to 14, these bids are delicious 



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City Sam - 30 Apr 2018 11:25 AM
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Well we still need to expand the first division and apparently a club who could be hovering near the bottom their bid should be rejected? So the only criteria which fits for you would be another imaginary big city CBD team and forget about the fact they'd run at a loss renting a stadium to big for the fans they won't have.

I never said any of that

We need to establish a second tier of 10 teams to replace the youth league pronto and scrap the cap. And then after a year promote 2 teams to the A League. Then after 3 years introduce an unconditional 1 on and 1 out system

If Dandenong want to be one of those 2 clubs promoted then they need to be top 2 of 10 teams that meet the same criteria fighting the same fight. And if they want to be in the A League 10 years from now then they have to make sure they don't finish 12th

Of course teams 11 and 12 are going to be small. Whichever team ends up being 12th shouldn't have a permanent spot in the league ahead of the 8 teams fighting hard below them




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paladisious - 30 Apr 2018 11:22 AM

top idea

everyone trawl through 6 years of posts , see if anyone mentioned anything slightly like what some Journo's running this week.

Actually I think you have to give some credit to "paladisious".
He called the exact site and you are just looking silly having a go at him for doing so.



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bluebird - 30 Apr 2018 11:29 AM
City Sam - 30 Apr 2018 11:25 AM

I never said any of that

We need to establish a second tier of 10 teams to replace the youth league pronto and scrap the cap. And then after a year promote 2 teams to the A League. Then after 3 years introduce an unconditional 1 on and 1 out system

If Dandenong want to be one of those 2 clubs promoted then they need to be top 2 of 10 teams that meet the same criteria fighting the same fight. And if they want to be in the A League 10 years from now then they have to make sure they don't finish 12th

Of course teams 11 and 12 are going to be small. Whichever team ends up being 12th shouldn't have a permanent spot in the league ahead of the 8 teams fighting hard below them

But this is really a moot point, with the FFA in charge there isn't going to be P and R and a 2nd division anytime soon but the bids accepted should be sustainable clubs. In which actually having a region defining them with definite support and their own stadium which will have lower costs than renting at AAMI park is a very good first step to being sustainable. 
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Remember last week when I said this was a strong bid?
It has EVERYTHING!
The stadium in this location, with the land gifted by the Council is a GAME Changer.
It's a win-win-win.
Win for football with: more local derbies for Victory and City, in the heartland of Melbourne's football community (more local clubs and registered players than any other LGA), demographics that are likely to support football (high immigrant population from countries with strong football traditions), great location for opposition supporters with train/bus access and freeway access, most Victory/City supporters are probably less than an hour travel from the stadium. The team should be well supported.

Win for South East Melbourne: This area is one of the fastest growing areas in the nation. All 3 local Councils want to "bring Melbourne to the south east" not have to go to Melbourne CBD. The Monash freeway is a nightmare.  It takes anywhere from 1.5 to nearly 2 hours to drive to and from the CBD on the Monash carpark in peak hour to the biggest. It takes about 35-45 minutes going on the Monash when you're going 'the other way' in peak hour. There are people out here who are 'fatigued' from driving the Monash every day who will not go to the city to attend football matches or other events, even though they are not on at the peak hour travel times. However, these people just might go to a local stadium. 

Win for FFA and Fox: Melbourne t.v timeslot. Fish where the fish are, backed by investors with money and previous experience in the competition (Gerry Ryan).

Really, it's a great bid.



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I know this will be sold as the next wanderers but its important to keep expectations in check. Its more likely to be a mariners type club. If its viable and this is whats wanted good luck to them.

Its also noteworthy that you dont have 15 professional sporting clubs in melbourne playing in the cbd for no reason...this is going to need some serious local goodwill and people prepared to switch allegiances, because the rest of melbourne isnt going there to watch sport.
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Stadium site on Google street view. You can see Dandenong Station right behind it.

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City Sam - 30 Apr 2018 11:34 AM
bluebird - 30 Apr 2018 11:29 AM

But this is really a moot point, with the FFA in charge there isn't going to be P and R and a 2nd division anytime soon but the bids accepted should be sustainable clubs. In which actually having a region defining them with definite support and their own stadium which will have lower costs than renting at AAMI park is a very good first step to being sustainable. 

But if the FFA don't change their model then expansion itself is a moot point because it is going to be an unsustainable and expensive exercise

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MarkfromCroydon - 30 Apr 2018 11:38 AM
Remember last week when I said this was a strong bid?
It has EVERYTHING!
The stadium in this location, with the land gifted by the Council is a GAME Changer.
It's a win-win-win.
Win for football with: more local derbies for Victory and City, in the heartland of Melbourne's football community (more local clubs and registered players than any other LGA), demographics that are likely to support football (high immigrant population from countries with strong football traditions), great location for opposition supporters with train/bus access and freeway access, most Victory/City supporters are probably less than an hour travel from the stadium. The team should be well supported.

Win for South East Melbourne: This area is one of the fastest growing areas in the nation. All 3 local Councils want to "bring Melbourne to the south east" not have to go to Melbourne CBD. The Monash freeway is a nightmare.  It takes anywhere from 1.5 to nearly 2 hours to drive to and from the CBD on the Monash carpark in peak hour to the biggest. It takes about 35-45 minutes going on the Monash when you're going 'the other way' in peak hour. There are people out here who are 'fatigued' from driving the Monash every day who will not go to the city to attend football matches or other events, even though they are not on at the peak hour travel times. However, these people just might go to a local stadium. 

Win for FFA and Fox: Melbourne t.v timeslot. Fish where the fish are, backed by investors with money and previous experience in the competition (Gerry Ryan).

Really, it's a great bid.



Will they be crowd pullers interstate? Unlikely
Will they command top tier tv ratings? Also unlikely.

Of course this shouldnt matter but since everything is about metrics these things fo go into consideration.

Adelaide united v dandenong doesnt exactly wet the appetite.
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This bid, South Sydney, Wollongong, Brisbane City, South Melbourne and Campbelltown all making the right impression. 
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