Roy Keane anyone?

This club started going downhill when they selected the horrible, bland name.

I find it quiet ironic lou  sticca  isn't involved anymore with the club.  And I don't horvat is either 

I will absolutely laugh if council get fed up and end up putting the land up for tender.

When you order an expansion franchise from wish.com.

Western United reminds me of the majority of Kickstarter (or any other crowd funding) project. Start with a great pitch. Gather a bunch of money (and in this case land). Let the project ETA run out 4-5 times longer than originally stated. Then if/when they finally deliver, it's a disappointing watered down version of the original pitch. 

Calder Utd!!

I heard they are still trying to got state gov to fund part of the build as it will now be redesigned  as a covid quarantine accommodation facility/community sporting precinct/shopping hub/world class multi use football specific ultra stadium.... If you hear rumours of the mighty United club not fielding a men's team in next year's comp, don't be alarmed, the stadium is still being built as this is really all about football pathways and professionalising the sport... we should all be thankfull, to Steve Horvat and Lou Sticca for their contribution to the game we all love 💖⚽️🌈

Yeah I have the same thoughts.  This umming and aahing is very off putting if you're a wu fan and or member. The fact that probuild isn't involved with club any more despite them being the builder they were gonna use says something.   And once a commercial builder gets burnt the whole industry kinda will not try to work with a client because of it.

I thought the design was finalized a while back and the builder confirmed too.

Oh that chestnut.  We heard that before 

I like the fact that Sourasis highlighted the fact they finished in the relegation zone on the table.... classy. Hope they dont scratch the Lambo at Werribee Automotive.

“Progress on Wyndham City Stadium was also made this season, with the project given a key planning amendment from State Government due to its state significance.

We continue to work on our stadium project with designing underway, and the appointment of a project manager and builder also imminent. “


https://www.wufc.com.au/news/a-letter-chairman

My experience with an investment property is that it was a 10% increase on what it would cost if you did all the contracting yourself (house and land).  But what you can do it yourself for is the "retail" price, while the developers are paying the equivalent of a wholesale price.  Difficult to know what the difference is, but I would think that somewhere around 20% would be a reasonable guess.  Using these figures,  an informed guess based on my experience would pin their profit margin at around 30% of the cost of each house/land value.

So $115000 of each $345000 property (no idea what they are going for down there).   Profit on 500 houses = $57,500,000.  
Then there's all the retail construction and leasing.   A real estate contact of mine says there's far more money long term in commercial property.  

Apart from all that, I don't believe that Western United will ever build a stadium.  In fact, I'll be surprised if the club still exists in two years time.  My money is on the franchise being sold, moved and recreated.  Most likely to Canberra.

Not In tarneit.  Council can't keep on sling plots of land as there's not much left

170m / 6000 = $28333. Is that the going profit on a dwelling build?

The thing is, the maths has never quite worked out for me.
So let's agree that it's all a front for a foreign real estate developer.
They had to spend $20 mill on a license, plus build a stadium costing some $150 million?  (which will bleed money for as long as it stands)
How many crappy dog box little houses need to be sold to make that up?
You'd have to sell at least 6,000 houses just to break even.
Maybe that's possible.

I'm not fussed if they do have a revenue stream outside of soccer via a housing development. If anything, I'm probably happy that they do have that outside revenue stream to back the soccer club so they aren't scraping for funds like lots of other clubs around the world.

Maybe with their millions ready to invest in a football club they could have bought land in Geelong (or even partnered up with an existing council ground/club to improve an existing soccer complex) and build the facilities they based their bid and acceptance on??
Apart from the non existent housing development and the sweetheart deal the council of Whyndham have given them on the land to build low cost medium density dogbox housing what else about this group of "developers" makes people believe the "club" is anything more than a front for a real estate deal?

What a great idea! With Edith Cowan University up there too, they could call the team ECU Joondalup. Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?

Tend to agree that Heart seemed to have a very confusing start, as they kept talking for up a Casey base in the South-East and then suddenly set up at Bundoora, in the north, but still not trying to represent a specific area. 

They remind me of hearts early days. 

You'll never appease everyone and having a home everywhere doesn't help. I get why Geelong people didn't buy in - they were never Geelong. Wyndham people I assume haven't brought in as they aren't there yet.

As most people have said until they settle down they will struggle to win hearts and minds. Even Knights Stadium isn't really close to what will eventually be their home. I get why they haven't setup in Wyndham now (there isn't any suitable venues available).

I don't know what the answer is. Maybe temporary stands? Again - where? It'd be interesting to know if the United bid team asked to be first in or come in after Macarthur as if they came in second they may have had a bit more support and at least some chance of finding a temporary home prior to the stadium going up.

They seemed to try to be something for everyone. 

They were between a rock and a hard place. If they were Geelong-based they needed to align with the cats somehow. Since Geelong wasn't an option it really did set them backwards.

Would have to be SoR Glory. North based team would have to be Joondalup area...the amount of poms out that way is insane, could definitely support a team on its own.

There is a small band of wu supporters down there.  Or was .  Geelong has more mv fans down there . Wu have been horrid . They have school clinics down in Geelong but they have embraced them. I posted once why they didn't have clinics down in Wyndham? And they deleted it and had one in a local school..  

Betrayed?? They never embraced them when WU was bending over backwards for them. There would be a exception for a tiny faction of supporters ofcourse. It's an Afl city, there's no support for them even if they were called Geelong Kittens.

Some Geelong wu fans feel betrayed.  This club reminds me of heart in the early days.  So much promise with little to show for it 

Agree, but Geelong doesn’t have a suitable venue (makes a mokery of the FFA saying that it had a high quality venue at GMHBA until they built the new stadium).

As I’ve said before, WU deked to put in a lot of effort to make Geelong work, and with a more appropriately sized stadium it likely would have been a better outcome. I do feel for the Geelong fans that did jump on board only for WU to jump off far sooner than expected.