Macarthur South West Sydney Thread


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So the updated 2019 Census data is out with an easy to use map.
https://itt.abs.gov.au/itt/r.jsp?databyregion
Ensure you click Local Government Area as the current map layer as it provides great population numbers
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Here are some population stats from the so called catchment areas/local government areas for this franchise.
I've categorised the LGA's: Main Catchment: 262,298, Regional Catchment 81,345, Secondary Catchment 275,534 & Ambitious Catchment 373,931


Main Catchment:
Campbelltown: 168,139


Camden:94,159


Regional Catchment:
Wingecarribee: 50,493


Goulburn Mulwaree: 30,852


Secondary Catchment (Both border Campbelltown, I have queries over how much of Liverpool will feel engaged with MFC as I would say most already support WSW and a few Syd FC, however I think Wollondilly is a genuine catchment area):

Wollondilly: 52,230


Liverpool: 223,304


Overly Ambitious (I don't see people from here travelling to CTown hence the overly ambitious catchment, thought about adding Georges River 158,411 & Fairfield 210,612 but didn't):

Canterbury-Bankstown: 373,931


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MCMH - 16 Nov 2019 5:45 PM
Here are some population stats from the so called catchment areas/local government areas for this franchise.
I've categorised the LGA's: Main Catchment: 262,298, Regional Catchment 81,345, Secondary Catchment 275,534 & Ambitious Catchment 373,931
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Officially south west Sydney always included Liverpool, Campbelltown, Camden and Bankstown and sometimes Fairfield has been included in it.  Macarthur includes Campbelltown, Camden and Wollondilly.  With these in mind the Bulls'  key drawing area in my view is Liverpool, Campbelltown, Camden, Wollondilly and the south western part of Canterbury Bankstown (along the East Hills railway line).

In my experience having worked there for 6 years a long time ago Wingercarribee people identify with Wollongong more than Sydney but with no A-League club on the south coast the Bulls might draw OK from that area as it is 30 minutes closer than the Wanderers.  With 3.2% of the population being registered players there is a significant interest in football there.

There was some research done on drawing areas for sporting clubs in Australia and a very rough summary from memory of the major points is that an area that is up to 30 (45?) minutes travel door to door by public transport is where a club can expect maximum yield from the market.  From the 30 (45?) minute mark out to 75m the expected yield will drop linearly and further out than that yield is minimal and not uniform.  In a market like Sydney with multiple clubs this travel analysis shows large overlaps in club "territories" to the point that drawing boundaries for clubs is a waste of time.
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Should be up to 5k by next year i believe.
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Any news when they will go ahead with the redevelopment of Campbelltown stadium or will this be a few years away while Moore Park and Homebush are being finalised?

Early days but will this ground look to have safe standing options for active as well if the redevelopment goes ahead.


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The Government just changed the planning process for a major development in Camden.  This is intended to fast track development in South West Creek a 30,000 residence, 100k population precinct on both sides of Northern Rd immediately north of Oran Park.  A separate precinct of nearly 500 Ha adjacent to South West Creek is also expected to get rezoning next year.  I'm not sure how soon development will start but there's quite a few potential grassroots clubs in that lot over the next decade.
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Gyfox - 24 Nov 2019 11:37 PM
The Government just changed the planning process for a major development in Camden.  This is intended to fast track development in South West Creek a 30,000 residence, 100k population precinct on both sides of Northern Rd immediately north of Oran Park.  A separate precinct of nearly 500 Ha adjacent to South West Creek is also expected to get rezoning next year.  I'm not sure how soon development will start but there's quite a few potential grassroots clubs in that lot over the next decade.

The Hermitage at Glenswood Hills is near there or it might be that one.  They're building a golf course in it.  What a waste of space.  
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ErogenousZone - 25 Nov 2019 8:50 AM
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The Hermitage at Glenswood Hills is near there or it might be that one.  They're building a golf course in it.  What a waste of space.  

The Hermitage is the other side of Camden Valley Way from Oran Park.  It's in the Turners Rd/Central Hills precinct and the football complex for that precinct in Gregory Hills was completed recently.  The keys for the place were handed over to Macarthur Football Association to manage it.  I don't know whether any locals are looking to start a new club yet.  If not it will be used for games for other clubs.  Its the normal 2 full size pitches side by side with a cricket pitch between them that you find all over western Sydney.

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Gregory Hills is immediately south of Gledswood Hills and the estate immediately north of Gledswood Hills, Emerald Hills has provision for a similar sporting complex.  Hopefully football will continue its dominance in the region so it gets allocated to football as well.
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Mal Impiombato appointed General Manager Football Operations.

"Macarthur FC seem little more than a name to some right now but the new club from Sydney's south west already have the foundations built to leave a Hyundai A-League legacy
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Last week, we caught up with Mal Impiombato - FFA's former General Manager Operations (Competitions) - to see how Macarthur are tracking. When can we expect player announcements? What is the club's identity? And what are the club doing that no other Hyundai A-League outfit has ever been able to do?"

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/player-recruitment-cowbells-and-league-firsts-building-macarthurs-foundations


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MEET Macarthur FC Head Coach Ante Milicic and Australian football legend Frank Farina at Macarthur Square shopping centre’s Kellicar Lane next Thursday 12 December at 6.30pm. Fox Sports commentator Simon Hill will host a question and answer segment, followed by an autograph session and photo opportunity. You can also pick up some free Macarthur FC Christmas cards!The event will mark one year since Macarthur FC were granted a licence to enter the Hyundai A-League in 2020. The countdown is on and we can’t wait!Image may contain: 1 person, closeup and text
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Why Farina though?
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paladisious - 6 Dec 2019 8:55 PM
Why Farina though?

He is the boss of the Charlie Perkins Soccer Academy for indigenous players that Macarthur are setting up.
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Gyfox - 6 Dec 2019 9:17 PM
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He is the boss of the Charlie Perkins Soccer Academy for indigenous players that Macarthur are setting up.

Good stuff.
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Jed and Spira are having a gap year it looks like, till they start pre-season with the Bulls I would think. Ninko would go well as the new no.10 for 2 years.
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The rumour mill is going strong.  Not only Ninkovic but Le Fondre and Redmayne to Macarthur is the latest.  Source is SBS which rates just above SST.
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Gyfox - 16 Dec 2019 9:57 PM
The rumour mill is going strong.  Not only Ninkovic but Le Fondre and Redmayne to Macarthur is the latest.  Source is SBS which rates just above SST.

You can add Fenton from the Nix to the list too.

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Good on them, may as well go hard.

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The potential Ninkovic signing is not over yet, a proposed soccer clinic run by him will be cultivated at the Bulls if he signs up. Its part of the deal.
Sfc normally don't sign players on more than one year contracts when they are thirty something. Brosque had signed about three one year contracts.
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Gyfox - 16 Dec 2019 9:57 PM
The rumour mill is going strong.  Not only Ninkovic but Le Fondre and Redmayne to Macarthur is the latest.  Source is SBS which rates just above SST.

very lazy build your own team 
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Melbcityguy - 17 Dec 2019 9:50 AM
Gyfox - 16 Dec 2019 9:57 PM

very lazy build your own team 

My thoughts too. Disappointing from an A-League perspective. 

According to SFC Instagram Ninko just signed a new two year deal. So much for that.

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sydneyfc1987 - 17 Dec 2019 9:58 AM
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My thoughts too. Disappointing from an A-League perspective. 

According to SFC Instagram Ninko just signed a new two year deal. So much for that.

good sick of team's recycling how about they get the best player from singapore or a npl player? we need creativity in our recruiting 
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Melbcityguy - 17 Dec 2019 9:50 AM
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very lazy build your own team 

It makes sense to try and bring in some known performers. Obviously they would also need to find some new faces, but Visa signings are so risky, so if you can get people you know are good at this level, why not? It's what Fowler tried to do with ROD (he failed pretty miserably, but most of us saw that coming). 
There's also only so much good Aussie talent around, so it's almost necessary to try and raid other clubs. 
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sydneyfc1987 - 17 Dec 2019 9:58 AM
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My thoughts too. Disappointing from an A-League perspective. 


All AL clubs, especially SFC, have been manipulating the AL transfer market by driving players prices up/down to get their best personal deal possible for the entire league history. SFC have no right to cry foul if/when locals lurk on their players, it's up to their management and agents to work out how to retain them or find better options elsewhere, just like SFC have expected every other club to do to date elsewhere. 
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pv4 - 17 Dec 2019 10:19 AM
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All AL clubs, especially SFC, have been manipulating the AL transfer market by driving players prices up/down to get their best personal deal possible for the entire league history. SFC have no right to cry foul if/when locals lurk on their players, it's up to their management and agents to work out how to retain them or find better options elsewhere, just like SFC have expected every other club to do to date elsewhere. 

What do you think I meant when I say "from an a league perspective"? ffs.

Im purely taking about the disappointment of a new club (that so far looks pretty promising) looking to sign 35 year olds from the next door club as marquees instead of bringing new foreign players to the league i.e Western United with Diamanti and Kone. 



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soccerfoo - 11 Dec 2019 6:51 PM
Jed and Spira are having a gap year it looks like, till they start pre-season with the Bulls I would think. 

Its clear Jedinak is. not sure its a great idea for someone who will be 36 come R1 next season to do this. he probably thinks it'll extend his career by a year... I hope for his sake he's staying fit. 

As for Spira, he's made a career out of making dumb choices. 
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Melbcityguy - 17 Dec 2019 9:50 AM
Gyfox - 16 Dec 2019 9:57 PM

very lazy build your own team 

Nonsense.  Over 80% of the squad has to be Australian and they will all be contracted at the moment.  Everyone coming off contract at the end of the year is fair game and all clubs will be talking to some of them.  As for imports the same goes.  Pay up and sign them or risk losing them.
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sydneyfc1987 - 17 Dec 2019 9:58 AM
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My thoughts too. Disappointing from an A-League perspective. 

According to SFC Instagram Ninko just signed a new two year deal. So much for that.

Agree with both of you.

They could build a very competitive squad by bringing some Aussies home from overseas (Geria, Ansell, Jovanovic, Bozanic to name a few) and signing some talented youngsters not getting much gametime at their clubs (Mourdoukoutas and Margus are a couple that come to mind) but instead they chose to raid other clubs. Very disappointing imo.
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Gyfox - 17 Dec 2019 1:34 PM
Melbcityguy - 17 Dec 2019 9:50 AM

Nonsense.  Over 80% of the squad has to be Australian and they will all be contracted at the moment.  Everyone coming off contract at the end of the year is fair game and all clubs will be talking to some of them.  As for imports the same goes.  Pay up and sign them or risk losing them.

Just because the can do it doesn't mean neutral fans should applaud it. Fact is a new club should be trying to establish a something unique. Bringing quality foreign players into the league is one way to do that.  Just look at Shinji Ono for Wanderers in their first season.

 If Western United can go searching for (and find) quality visa players outside of Australia then so can Macarthur. 

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