You guys play him for quitting? There was an agenda against him from some of Graham's mates. No point staying where he is not wanted. Still the best coach Australia has produced. I love watching him succeed in Japan and I'm enjoying watching the progress at Celtic.

Ange saw that we were going in the wrong direction as a sport which is why he quit, what people thought about him as a coach he believed Australian players can football at the highest level which wasn’t backed by the Aus football community who just wanted to be at the World Cup where he believed we can do more than just make up the numbers.
I haven’t seen Arnie do this so far with the football we are playing especially what I saw at the Olympics which took us back to the dark ages especially in the last game.

A revolution or evolution i know what I’d chose in trying to get to the next level. 

Who? Robbie Slater? So what? Look at the ignorant vitriol directed at Arnie by a certain element of fans now. Has he quit? 

I didn't want him to quit. I'd say the majority of Socceroos fans wanted him to see out the WC cycle.  I want him to succeed at Celtic but I still haven't forgiven him for cutting and running like he did.

Pretty much. He realised he wasn't going to get anything out of the team at Russia and it would be to the detriment of his career to hang around.  

His right to make that decision but it doesn't mean I have to like or respect it. 

I'm enjoying watching him also, he's putting Aus coaching on the map, he's a great coach.
My issue is I believe if he went to the WC and lost those games, he wouldn't be where he is today, he knew that. So his dumping of the Socceroos was a career move. Which tells me that the belief Ange spoke of in the team and the 'Australian' brand we all followed, wasn't as important as he's next coaching gig.

+1

Exactly. Prioritizing his own interests ahead of the Socceroos in very tough group in Russia (France FFS)
Meanwhile Arnold VOLUNTEERS for $0 extra pay to go to Olympics  (away from his family for weeks and weeks with covid quarantine etc) and got a good victory v Argentinia at least.
Call Ange a better technical coach than Arnold but can’t say Arnold isn’t committed to Socceroos/Olyroos 

"Its a fact" you say? Ok, I guess there is no use continuing, cant argue with indisputable facts right?

Hmm I read that Arnold was the highest ever paid Socceroos coach and in fact is on a better wage than 3/4 of the National team coaches IN THE WORLD?????? I guess I just dont understand the facts?

So Angie struggling to qualify with (in your words) "Our hands-down weakest team" and "one of the worst team's Australia had taken to a WC" was a cowardly failure? But somehow scoring a questionable penalty against France yet losing the game comfortably is some sort of source of pride for you? I guess we want different things out of the team that is supposed to represent all of us.

It also tells us that he didn't truly believe we could win the world cup like he said, because if we were a genuine chance he would have stayed. 

In his defence and in hindsight prioritising his career may be the best thing he ever did for Aus football as he has opened the door for Aussie coaches abroad (Japan already and hopefully Europe). 
  

WTF?! Questionable?! Was a clear hand ball that got Socceroos penalty against France!? Same for Denmark game. If anything the penalty given to France against Risdon was questionable. Losing the game ‘comfortably’ my arse- lucky goal to France near the end for 2-1 hardly comfortable loss- France won the Wcup so not exactly an embarrassment to lose by 1 lucky goal.

All you seem to want is Ange to be declared to be far superior to all other Socceroos coaches (probably because he is greek of course) and for NT to be ridiculed now cos Ange left Socceroos high & dry going into a Wcup 

Who has been criticising Graham? I haven't seen much of that.

No...nobody is saying that.
Him quitting on the eve of the world cup was cowardly.
Several players openly talked about how let down they felt after all his talk.

He did some good things and some bad things as a coach - as do all coaches.
However, please do not try to re-write his abandoning the ship as anything but what it was.

Whether he felt unloved and didn't like the way football was run by the head honchos is a different matter again.
He could have quit 3 games later and made the same point.

He did what he always has. Talked dynasties and culture but quit when it was best for him.
Fair enough but it is what it is.

I think Arnold might be a better man manager and inspires the boys, I just think he lacks the technical/tactical ability to change games. A proper assistant would do him wonders..I wish they kept one of the dutch fellas.

100% agree with all of this. Threw the NT under the bus and sent the FFA into a tailspin months out from the biggest tournament in the world. Weak as piss.

Of course he did I agree with you. I just dont seem to buy into the whole "he quit because he couldn't stand Robbie Slater's criticism of him" bullshit that seems to be the FFA's take on the whole thing. I hope that his passion and knowledge provide a just reward over there in Europe and we dont look around in 20-30 years time and say "if only".

You seem to want to make a lot of assumptions about other people on here little buddy? Im confused BTW, is Ange Greek because he "abandoned" the Socceroos or is he "Aussie" because he is flying the flag for the FFA in Europe????? 

Always has? Please explain when he just quit? Coaches are entitled to leave their post when they feel the time is right.

Have you ever coached at any decent level? Do you understand how it works? If the people that employ you don't respect you or trust you, what is the point in staying? It is better to go to a club or NT where you are appreciated by your employers.

How was that a questionable penalty? It was a blatant handball.

Unnecessary? Probably. Lucky? sure. 

And how did we "lose comfortably" with the winning goal being within a bees dick of the goal-line tech ruling it no-goal? 

I don't care what anybody says, the performance vs France was top notch. We pressed intelligently and held our shape and thus they were out of ideas for entire match. Would of been a famous point if not for Pogba's lucky winner.

Aha yeah man, I've totally coached at the same level as Ange otherwise I would never dare make a comment on a football forum about a public figure who talked big and abandoned ship.

So he didn't quit, he just "left his post"........cool.

I even said "fair enough" ie good on him, he did what was best for him.

I even agreed he felt the FFA wasn't behind him but that he could have chosen to not abandon the players and quit 3 games later to make his point and move on to someone who "appreciated him"

He was born in Greece but representing Australia as a coach

do you understand how contractual agreements work? I believe a contract he signed to take our team to the WC was a sign of trust.

I never asked if you have coached at his level. Have you coached at a competitive level so you can fully understand the position he was in?

Do you know how a contract works? If he was allowed to walk away from his contract, clearly there was a clause in there or both parties agreed to it.

Another brave defeat. Aren't you sick of that yet. Those days, for that sort of sentiment, should be long gone. Tell me, was losing to Japan another of those brave defeats that we should be proud of?

Well to be fair, he has never come out and 100% explained to the public why he quit. Just gave vague comments. TBH the way he left was quite gutless, he left the players high and dry before quitting and for all his talk about changing the way we view ourselves as a football nation couldnt even explain the reason why he was stepping down. So people are left to speculate. He did what he felt was best for him, so no judgement on that part. Maybe he felt Japan was too good to refuse. But the least he could have done is explained his reason to the public given all the talk he had previously about wanting the public to discuss tactics more, wanting us to not be happy with just being at the WC but actually believing we can win it, and wanting us to have the confidence that we can attack and win. All that was undone when he left and to this hasnt given a clear reason why.

I still standby the fact that if he had explained it for whatever the reason it was be it Slater getting his mate the job, the hopeless FFA, the Japan offer being too good, he would not have undone the years of work he put in earlier to change Australian football.

No I haven't Decentric but I still think what you are implying is ridiculous.

I never said he didn't have a right to leave and do what suits him best.

I even acknowledged his issues with the FFA and our football caulture.

BUT
He abandoned the team after talking the big talk to the point his players who looked up to him were left feeling betrayed.
He knew he was on a hiding to nothing and jumped for the sake of his own career.

Good on him but that is what happened.

When did he just quit?!

Lol wut?

Declared that he wanted to create a dynasty at Roar, Victory, in Japan and for the NT. Jumped ship everytime it suited him.

Crapped on about wanting to be near his family when he was in Brisbane only to piss off after Victory to go to Japan where he left his family behind.

Good luck to him. He's entitled to do whatever suits himself but don't try and sanitise what he has done and probably always will do.

Having said all that I do hope he does well at Celtic.

Personally I'd like to see him coach Japan or South Korea. Teams with highly technical players that could implement the style he was trying to achieve with Australia.

But yeah, still a dog for the way he left Australia in the lurch 

Yep

Got his fingers burnt in Greece and learned to get out at the top

ended up having to beg for an A-league gig

Saw the writing on the wall in Brisbane and got out.

Same in Melbourne  and same  with Australia.

Almost blew it when he avoided relegation on Goal difference in Japan.  Had a great season the year after and has jumped again.

Will do the same at Celtic but maybe they'll be better off for his stay.