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someguyjc - 3 Nov 2021 10:11 AM
AJF - 3 Nov 2021 9:50 AM

Definitely seems that way. That being said, I still like the guy and it would be genuinely great for him to succeed as a coach. Not convinced that will happen at WU though and this is probably his last chance at this level.

he is definitely a likeable guy, he had big deficiencies as a manager previously but he may have learnt and improved. I actually think that he is a pretty good tactician. He improved heart when he first took over and took brisbane from making finals by default (perth being deducted points) to within a game of winning the premiership. what let him down was his recruiting which is generally poor (though he dos have an eye for young strikers) and his ability to keep the players on his side which is strange because he did worse the more the squad was his own. 

if you take recruiting away from him and perhaps get him a bit more help in training so he only has to focus on setting up the team tactically i think he might actually make a very good coach. we will see if he has learnt 
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aussie pride - 2 Nov 2021 9:32 PM
I see WU signed Christian Theohaurus (sp).
Was a real shame he left MV so prematurely when Muscy was phasing him into the team and giving him the impact sub role.
I understand you need to chase your dreams but it’s no surprise that not a lot was achieved in Germany for him.

To be fair . I don't think even Theo knew why monchengladbach wanted to sign him either.  But weird how wu signed him in a scholarship deal and not a proper deal
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 3 Nov 2021 2:32 PM
aussie pride - 2 Nov 2021 9:32 PM

To be fair . I don't think even Theo knew why monchengladbach wanted to sign him either.  But weird how wu signed him in a scholarship deal and not a proper deal

It's just taking advantage of the salary cap exemption:

Scholarship Players – Each Club can contract up to 9 under 23 Australian Players on the national minimum wage. Any payments above the national minimum wage to these Players are included in the Club’s Salary Cap;

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sirhcdobo - 3 Nov 2021 12:30 PM
someguyjc - 3 Nov 2021 10:11 AM

he is definitely a likeable guy, he had big deficiencies as a manager previously but he may have learnt and improved. I actually think that he is a pretty good tactician. He improved heart when he first took over and took brisbane from making finals by default (perth being deducted points) to within a game of winning the premiership. what let him down was his recruiting which is generally poor (though he dos have an eye for young strikers) and his ability to keep the players on his side which is strange because he did worse the more the squad was his own. 

if you take recruiting away from him and perhaps get him a bit more help in training so he only has to focus on setting up the team tactically i think he might actually make a very good coach. we will see if he has learnt 

I like JA and felt bad for the abuse he cops.  That being said, the other glaring issues he had when he was with Brisbane was the absolute shambles of a defense (maybe his brother's responsibility) and his tactical inflexibility.  Regardless of what was happening - minute 60 would come up and a pre-planned sub was made.  He did seem to get a good return from Aussie strikers.  
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https://mobile.twitter.com/wufcofficial/status/1457258393937190914?t=GhzwiSk-KYb_Xa_r1I-3JA&s=09

Sorry to the Melbourne Victory supporters, your friends in the west seem to think you won't be around for a very long time .... hahaahahahahah at least they stopped talking about playing at Lakeside for now. Hahahahahah 
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AJF - 3 Nov 2021 11:47 AM
someguyjc - 3 Nov 2021 10:11 AM

I have met him a few times and he is a genuinely nice guy, just no good as a coach, whereas Muscat on the other hand is another story...

Funnily enough Muscat would always go out of his way to come and say hello to me whenever we both happened to be at the same venue (as if he must have thought i was someone else) 😂
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Ernie Tapai - 12 Nov 2021 8:20 PM
AJF - 3 Nov 2021 11:47 AM

Funnily enough Muscat would always go out of his way to come and say hello to me whenever we both happened to be at the same venue (as if he must have thought i was someone else) 😂
Yep muscy is actually very friendly and accommodating.  People have a bias against him due to his playing days . But the guy is a genuinely a nice bloke.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Nov 2021 7:08 AM
Ernie Tapai - 12 Nov 2021 8:20 PM
Yep muscy is actually very friendly and accommodating.  People have a bias against him due to his playing days . But the guy is a genuinely a nice bloke.

As Russell brand says anyone can be nice for ten mins lol 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Nov 2021 7:08 AM
Ernie Tapai - 12 Nov 2021 8:20 PM
Yep muscy is actually very friendly and accommodating.  People have a bias against him due to his playing days . But the guy is a genuinely a nice bloke.

Nice blokes don't play the way that barbarian did. He deliberately set out to injure opponents. 
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charlied - 13 Nov 2021 10:02 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Nov 2021 7:08 AM

Nice blokes don't play the way that barbarian did. He deliberately set out to injure opponents. 

a true thug.

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charlied - 13 Nov 2021 10:02 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Nov 2021 7:08 AM

Nice blokes don't play the way that barbarian did. He deliberately set out to injure opponents. 

Again you're basing his off field actions to the person he is off the field.  Cahill was brilliant on the field but is an arrogant twat  off the field. 
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Muscat nice guy off the pitch, tip rat on it. 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Nov 2021 11:39 AM
charlied - 13 Nov 2021 10:02 AM

Again you're basing his off field actions to the person he is off the field.  Cahill was brilliant on the field but is an arrogant twat  off the field. 

Can kinda of see that. He wasnt overly accomodating (polite but didnt seem enthused) when Everton toured here. I attended a charity function at the Hyatt with the squad/coaches etc. (yes, Tony Hibbert is genuinely a mime irl too) 

Then again he did go out of his way to come over to me and the other half outside the Reebok stadium when he heard the aussie accent

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Nov 2021 11:39 AM
charlied - 13 Nov 2021 10:02 AM

Again you're basing his off field actions to the person he is off the field.  Cahill was brilliant on the field but is an arrogant twat  off the field. 

But he also carried on like a pork chop on the pak too. Such a whiner. 

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tsf - 13 Nov 2021 11:55 AM
Muscat nice guy off the pitch, tip rat on it. 

Just hot headed, I wouldn't say tip rat.... clumsy yes.....
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Nov 2021 12:36 AM
tsf - 13 Nov 2021 11:55 AM

Just hot headed, I wouldn't say tip rat.... clumsy yes.....

You're not giving him much credit. 
Not much of what Muscat did was clumsy. 
Calculated and intentional more like it. 
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Butler99 - 14 Nov 2021 8:02 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Nov 2021 12:36 AM

You're not giving him much credit. 
Not much of what Muscat did was clumsy. 
Calculated and intentional more like it. 

Oh, he was always physical and didn't shy away from a "firm" tackle but remembering him as a player it seemed to me most clangers were because his man outplayed  him and young Musky just lashed out to keep up... Lost touch after he moved to Crystal Palace and couldn't watch Championship matches back then so didn't see him play in UK apart from Millwall and a few Rangers games... He played for a bit in the Aleague as well didn't he?  What was he like at the end of his career?
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Nov 2021 10:34 PM
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Oh, he was always physical and didn't shy away from a "firm" tackle but remembering him as a player it seemed to me most clangers were because his man outplayed  him and young Musky just lashed out to keep up... Lost touch after he moved to Crystal Palace and couldn't watch Championship matches back then so didn't see him play in UK apart from Millwall and a few Rangers games... He played for a bit in the Aleague as well didn't he?  What was he like at the end of his career?

He played 138 games for MV. He was still a thug from time to time, and seriously injured a young Adrian Zahra in one of his last ever A-League games, which earned him an 8 match ban. For the most part Muscat has always been a very solid and effective defender. The problem is when he got it wrong, he got it very very wrong, and that happened too many times. As a result his reputation will forever be tarnished despite having quite a solid playing career. As a coach though, he is a different person. I think his apprenticeship under Ange really made a difference. Yokohama are comfortably sitting 2nd on the J-League table, which is pretty impressive. It's unlikely they will be able to catch Kawasaki but it is technically still possible.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Nov 2021 12:36 AM
tsf - 13 Nov 2021 11:55 AM

Just hot headed, I wouldn't say tip rat.... clumsy yes.....

Yep real clumsy when he head butted a player in the tunnel at half time.


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Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Nov 2021 10:34 PM
Butler99 - 14 Nov 2021 8:02 PM

He played for a bit in the Aleague as well didn't he?  What was he like at the end of his career?

:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:

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Davide82 - 15 Nov 2021 12:07 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 14 Nov 2021 10:34 PM

:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:

Glad someone picked this up lololololol
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It is almost EXACTLY 3 years since West Melb Group where awarded an Aleague license to participate and finally an update on their prosed stadium .....
Sorry I know this is almost 24 hours ago but I guess not much has happened in the last 24 hours:

https://twitter.com/official_lesdog/status/1459772522262511616?t=QRgXOml8qauqtcY6sZW91Q&s=19

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Monoethnic Social Club - 15 Nov 2021 4:25 PM
It is almost EXACTLY 3 years since West Melb Group where awarded an Aleague license to participate and finally an update on their prosed stadium .....
Sorry I know this is almost 24 hours ago but I guess not much has happened in the last 24 hours:

https://twitter.com/official_lesdog/status/1459772522262511616?t=QRgXOml8qauqtcY6sZW91Q&s=19

https://www.facebook.com/2096793413741906/posts/4605516766202879/
I call bullshit.....
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This franchise is a total Fraud and should never have been awarded a club licence.
I will continue call this rabble Fraudsters.
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JDB03 - 2 Dec 2021 8:18 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 15 Nov 2021 4:25 PM

https://www.facebook.com/2096793413741906/posts/4605516766202879/
I call bullshit.....

shovel ready..... surprised the shovels didn't rust in the boot of the car for these last 3 years..... excited to see the dirt haul road in 3 or 4 months once completed and paid for by Wyndham council, Better hurry up,if they want the Werribee Wembley to be a training camp for a visiting women's world cup squad in 2023.. 
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This all really comes down to Football Australia AL bid process.

Short term gain $$$$ rather than acting for the best interests of the game. 

Western United and Team 11, should have been awarded positions in the AL subject to completing a stadium, within a 5 year time frame.

Basically build it and you're in.

Melbourne may have got 2 boutique stadiums.

We would not have missed out on a group of investors from Melbourne's South East.

WUFC would't be the called the "Nomadic Performance Art Project" and saved $30-$40Million put towards getting their stadium off the ground.

And another group of investors could have taken the 12th place, if they were play ready.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 2 Dec 2021 10:20 PM
JDB03 - 2 Dec 2021 8:18 PM

shovel ready..... surprised the shovels didn't rust in the boot of the car for these last 3 years..... excited to see the dirt haul road in 3 or 4 months once completed and paid for by Wyndham council, Better hurry up,if they want the Werribee Wembley to be a training camp for a visiting women's world cup squad in 2023.. 

The fact they're claiming the haul road being paid for by them shows how much they hoodwinked everyone. 
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Something positive to go against the negative bitterness of the FTBL forum. WU have passed 8,000 members. I imagine this would put them around the middle of the pack.

Sure, their memberships are cheap and many Victory/City fans have probably bought WU memberships to get cheap tix when playing away to them. But 8,000 isn’t anything to sneeze at. 

Its also interesting to see that after giving people giving them so much shit for having 3,000 at their home game against Perth 2 weeks, ago… City got 4,000 last night and crickets.

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Feed_The_Brox - 9 Dec 2021 11:25 AM
Something positive to go against the negative bitterness of the FTBL forum. WU have passed 8,000 members. I imagine this would put them around the middle of the pack.

Sure, their memberships are cheap and many Victory/City fans have probably bought WU memberships to get cheap tix when playing away to them. But 8,000 isn’t anything to sneeze at. 

Its also interesting to see that after giving people giving them so much shit for having 3,000 at their home game against Perth 2 weeks, ago… City got 4,000 last night and crickets.

Sounds like the sort of made up membership number the Giants bandy around

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bettega - 9 Dec 2021 11:38 AM
Feed_The_Brox - 9 Dec 2021 11:25 AM

Sounds like the sort of made up membership number the Giants bandy around

We need WU to define the term MEMBERSHIPS. 

This is definitely not season ticket holders. 

And there were people taking the piss out of the Melb City last night. 



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