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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration. Depends on whether I know or not.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration. put it this way, a fellow team mate of mine who used to work with the previous FA the FFA said it was all about the money first and foremost and look at what has come to be. Believe what you like.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration. put it this way, a fellow team mate of mine who used to work with the previous FA the FFA said it was all about the money first and foremost and look at what has come to be. Believe what you like. Speak to anyone that was close to FA or an A-league club at the time and they say the same thing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration. put it this way, a fellow team mate of mine who used to work with the previous FA the FFA said it was all about the money first and foremost and look at what has come to be. Believe what you like. Speak to anyone that was close to FA or an A-league club at the time and they say the same thing. Sorry fellas its wasn't JUST the money..... South bid was politely, or not (depending on who you ask) told to not bother counter offering the license fee despite closed door negotiations with the other two entities... The whole process was a scam.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration. put it this way, a fellow team mate of mine who used to work with the previous FA the FFA said it was all about the money first and foremost and look at what has come to be. Believe what you like. Speak to anyone that was close to FA or an A-league club at the time and they say the same thing. Sorry fellas its wasn't JUST the money..... South bid was politely, or not (depending on who you ask) told to not bother counter offering the license fee despite closed door negotiations with the other two entities... The whole process was a scam. I know many on here may read that and jump to the conclusion that MSC is just bitter and SM fans just make this stuff up. However, I have also been told this quietly from two different people, one a fairly senior person at the PFA and another from Football Victoria. My understanding was that SM were willing and able to match the WU fee and at the time were going to go higher. The money was obviously a huge factor, but not the only factor.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI think we have ALL been fed bits and pieces.... Who knows really how this all pans out? You may be 100% right and I am a raving conspiracy theorist but even you must concede that a "club" whose one and only reason for existence was the promise to "build the first ever privately owned Aleague stadium" Shouldn’t most of that criticism be directed to the losing bidders? One didn’t offer anywhere near enough money for the license (SM) and the other was reliant on a taxpayer funded stadium that was never going to happen (T11). As much as you criticise the WMG bid, it was still the superior bid of the 3 if you are being pragmatic about it. There were also bids from other cities you know. If they had just gone with Canberra and Wollongong, which both have existing rectangular stadiums that are a pretty decent fit for A-League, and an actual fan base interested in attending games, the league would be in far better shape than it is now. They could have even given WU a provisional licence that could be activated whenever the mythical stadium actually got built. But no, instead we got Gallop's moronic "fish where the fish are" mantra and Foxtel's bizarre insistence on the expansion sides being in Sydney and Melbourne, as if a team in those cities with 3k fans is worth more than a team outside them with 10k fans. And then Gallop was gone soon afterwards, Foxtel bailed anyway (after trying to wriggle out of the expansion clause when WU were playing in Geelong), and we're stuck with two teams that are millstones around the neck of the A-League, while potential clubs in other cities languish in a perpetual limbo state. Foxtel ( reportedly) did NOT want WMG, neither did Delloits who classified their bid (to paraphrase) as the "biggest load of shit in history".... "Reportedly" by whom? And really Delloits said that, or was it SM Hellas? Your improvisations are magic.......lol. I agree that there were that many differing opinions across the country that it wasn't funny. Certainly bitterness by the odd one that missed out. At the end of the day, the best considered entity was proposed by the FFA and endorsed by the new FA. Maybe and perhaps WU wasn't the best after all, but isn't hindsight wonderful. It's been said many a time already. WU were only accepted because they paid the most money The other clincher was they were able to survive without the TV distribution money from Foxtel that was already committed to the other 10 clubs. MacArthur next best but paid less. That's why they came in a year later. Had nothing to do with "best entity or proposal". Basically pay the most and show that you can sustain losses in the short term. Cool assumptions! $$$ > Good bid. And was always gonna be a Syd and Melb team. Them's the facts. Why so surprised? "Them's facts" are not facts but your assumptions. Of course good money contributes to a good bid but is not the only consideration. put it this way, a fellow team mate of mine who used to work with the previous FA the FFA said it was all about the money first and foremost and look at what has come to be. Believe what you like. Speak to anyone that was close to FA or an A-league club at the time and they say the same thing. Sorry fellas its wasn't JUST the money..... South bid was politely, or not (depending on who you ask) told to not bother counter offering the license fee despite closed door negotiations with the other two entities... The whole process was a scam. I know many on here may read that and jump to the conclusion that MSC is just bitter and SM fans just make this stuff up. However, I have also been told this quietly from two different people, one a fairly senior person at the PFA and another from Football Victoria. My understanding was that SM were willing and able to match the WU fee and at the time were going to go higher. The money was obviously a huge factor, but not the only factor. Oh I am EXTREMELY bitter JC but one thing I am not (at least purposefully) is a liar... :) My source was also a Football VIC person and to top it off I had a personal conversation with a FOXTEL engineer when they were setting up for the semi final of the FFA cup in 2017 at Lakeside about his thoughts on Hellas as a club and Lakeside as a venue. His personal opinion (had a great chat for 10-15 mins) was that Fox were firmly in the corner of South joining the Aleague, the venue is more than adequate for broadcast (more so than most of the shitty Aleague grounds of the time) and Foxtel "suits" were thrilled at the "old soccer v new football" dynamic that could be marketed... Yes this was just one man's opinion during a very casual chat but I can't think for any reason why he might have bullshitted?
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It's well documented that it wasn't about the money.
Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid.
In Melbourne, there were three things at play:
- South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles)
- both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that)
- you have the con job perpetrated by WU.
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+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory.....
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I heard from a friend who has a contact in an organization that has some information on the situation.
SM Hellas had the knowledge that whatever they put up, their competitor was going to trump it. SMH did not have the money to do that.
But as mentioned earlier, was not all about money.
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+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Well documented you say? Where ?? Melbourne clubs only lobbied for the new team not to be based at AAMi. That is why WU have had a battle to host games there. They're lucky MC and MV have compromised. It basically was all about the money and sustaining losses. E.g. WU paid $18M. $9M+ of that's was to be distributed back to WU has their salary cap distribution. (Sustaining losses) MacArthurs licence fee was less and that's why they came in a year later. Even though they were better setup with infrastructure than WU. Also why MacArthur had a stoush with FFA and licence fee installments. With the 6 yr Foxtel deal dead, the 3.5M distribution wasn't gonna happen. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/aleague-new-boys-macarthur-fc-may-want-assurances-from-ffa-before-committing-to-paying-fee/news-story/0320464eaafba340badb8bcf7fdd15b0?amp=&nk=52cabbfa5b3055405a70822f16dbf265-1676536197
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+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... Well, first and foremost, they didn't want South Melbourne. With the Dandenong bid, well, where is Melb City now setting up shop? So I don't think it's a stretch to think they had that one in mind when they welcomed the WU bid. Also, the the data showed that both had considerable support in those SE suburbs, so they were very happy for the new bid to set themselves halfway between Werribee and Geelong. Very, very happy. In fact, let's be honest, they could not be any happier than to have the 3rd franchise essentially on its knees.
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+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history.
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+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. It was widely reported at the time by people like Vince Rugari. Data was released about where Victory and City had memberships, and their preferences for who they wanted (or didn't want) was reported at the time.
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+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Well documented you say? Where ?? Melbourne clubs only lobbied for the new team not to be based at AAMi. That is why WU have had a battle to host games there. They're lucky MC and MV have compromised. It basically was all about the money and sustaining losses. E.g. WU paid $18M. $9M+ of that's was to be distributed back to WU has their salary cap distribution. (Sustaining losses) MacArthurs licence fee was less and that's why they came in a year later. Even though they were better setup with infrastructure than WU. Also why MacArthur had a stoush with FFA and licence fee installments. With the 6 yr Foxtel deal dead, the 3.5M distribution wasn't gonna happen. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/aleague-new-boys-macarthur-fc-may-want-assurances-from-ffa-before-committing-to-paying-fee/news-story/0320464eaafba340badb8bcf7fdd15b0?amp=&nk=52cabbfa5b3055405a70822f16dbf265-1676536197 It was at the time bud ... just a quick google will do: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/victory/melbourne-victory-chairman-anthony-di-pietro-says-ffa-should-consult-clubs-on-aleague-expansion/news-story/5bdfbd8a3ee59fd0517232cae677af9eNow, which of the three bids do you think the line below was refering too :) Not even going to bother with the whole pumkin seed eater gibe.... Filthy wannabe mafia grub. “At the core of any expansion, we must be confident that any new licenses don’t compromise the mainstream integrity and the marketability of the competition. “They must embrace all of us who enjoy sport. We’ve got to learn from lessons past, both good and bad.”
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+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAAOh and sorry for the long post but just dug out and old article to bring some context to the same old boring bullshit line from a few that the abortion that is WU is a new FA mistake..... CEO David Gallop explains things pretty clearly here :) https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Global/Issues/2018/12/14/International-Football/FFA-Expansion
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+x+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAA Probuild sponsored first year. Sticca tried to get them involved first year through the Andrew Zinni connection. They obviously wanted them to buy in and build stadium for them. I assume the $$$ didn't stack up. Probuild went bust a year or two later. Bissetto. What a clown. Heard him getting pissed was a regular occurrence in the WU corporate rooms. The guys running it their were making a motza on their salaries. Doing bugger all from the looks of it.
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So are they going bust or not? Let's forget all the bullshit
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+x+x+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAA Probuild sponsored first year. Sticca tried to get them involved first year through the Andrew Zinni connection. They obviously wanted them to buy in and build stadium for them. I assume the $$$ didn't stack up. Probuild went bust a year or two later. Bissetto. What a clown. Heard him getting pissed was a regular occurrence in the WU corporate rooms. The guys running it their were making a motza on their salaries. Doing bugger all from the looks of it. They certainly are a funny bunch... Low class people all the way. To be completely fair to them ALL, its boy's own fantasy shit I get it... Bunch of soccer mad wogs wanna run a football club of their own (shit who hasn't fantasised about that with their mates,). The fact that they were able to leverage that off a corrupt AND inept FFA and also get in bed with an equally as dodgy council to pull it off reeks. When this goes belly up eventually none of these blokes will lose too much off it and all they'l leave behind is a (thankfully very small) number of disillusioned football fans. I was initially pissed at how they are portrayed as the "future of Australian soccer" but now just laugh and think good luck to them... I can't wait to see what Cinderella stories the 4 new franchises will bring the APL.....
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+xSo are they going bust or not? Let's forget all the bullshit With a CFG logo on your crest bud I wouldn't go round talking about bullshit :)
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+x+xSo are they going bust or not? Let's forget all the bullshit With a CFG logo on your crest bud I wouldn't go round talking about bullshit :) 😳🤣🤣
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAA Probuild sponsored first year. Sticca tried to get them involved first year through the Andrew Zinni connection. They obviously wanted them to buy in and build stadium for them. I assume the $$$ didn't stack up. Probuild went bust a year or two later. Bissetto. What a clown. Heard him getting pissed was a regular occurrence in the WU corporate rooms. The guys running it their were making a motza on their salaries. Doing bugger all from the looks of it. They certainly are a funny bunch... Low class people all the way. To be completely fair to them ALL, its boy's own fantasy shit I get it... Bunch of soccer mad wogs wanna run a football club of their own (shit who hasn't fantasised about that with their mates,). The fact that they were able to leverage that off a corrupt AND inept FFA and also get in bed with an equally as dodgy council to pull it off reeks. When this goes belly up eventually none of these blokes will lose too much off it and all they'l leave behind is a (thankfully very small) number of disillusioned football fans. I was initially pissed at how they are portrayed as the "future of Australian soccer" but now just laugh and think good luck to them... I can't wait to see what Cinderella stories the 4 new franchises will bring the APL..... I think they'll also leave behind a conga line of investors wondering where their returns are on the property deal. These guys definitely weren't playing with their own money. Got a feeling the end is nigh. Unless there is more investment funds found soon. I've said it before. They are the Carlton SC of the A-league. They just went one better and won the GF.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAA Probuild sponsored first year. Sticca tried to get them involved first year through the Andrew Zinni connection. They obviously wanted them to buy in and build stadium for them. I assume the $$$ didn't stack up. Probuild went bust a year or two later. Bissetto. What a clown. Heard him getting pissed was a regular occurrence in the WU corporate rooms. The guys running it their were making a motza on their salaries. Doing bugger all from the looks of it. They certainly are a funny bunch... Low class people all the way. To be completely fair to them ALL, its boy's own fantasy shit I get it... Bunch of soccer mad wogs wanna run a football club of their own (shit who hasn't fantasised about that with their mates,). The fact that they were able to leverage that off a corrupt AND inept FFA and also get in bed with an equally as dodgy council to pull it off reeks. When this goes belly up eventually none of these blokes will lose too much off it and all they'l leave behind is a (thankfully very small) number of disillusioned football fans. I was initially pissed at how they are portrayed as the "future of Australian soccer" but now just laugh and think good luck to them... I can't wait to see what Cinderella stories the 4 new franchises will bring the APL..... I think they'll also leave behind a conga line of investors wondering where their returns are on the property deal. These guys definitely weren't playing with their own money. Got a feeling the end is nigh. Unless there is more investment funds found soon. I've said it before. They are the Carlton SC of the A-league. They just went one better and won the GF. Hahahah well it was the mighty Hellas that stopped Carlton doing that remember :) hahahahahaahahah Best we could do this time around is to make them have travel to Tassie for Home games.
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Seems to me that Western United needed better poltical connections, that's how you get infrastructure built in sport anywhere in the world Australia included. Be it the eggball codes or football you have to cozy up to the pollies. Those developer blokes needed to make more significant contributions to whatever political party could help them up.
Looks like they're cheap because they got a 1,500 capacity training paddock in the middle of fucking nowhere. Heh.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAA Probuild sponsored first year. Sticca tried to get them involved first year through the Andrew Zinni connection. They obviously wanted them to buy in and build stadium for them. I assume the $$$ didn't stack up. Probuild went bust a year or two later. Bissetto. What a clown. Heard him getting pissed was a regular occurrence in the WU corporate rooms. The guys running it their were making a motza on their salaries. Doing bugger all from the looks of it. They certainly are a funny bunch... Low class people all the way. To be completely fair to them ALL, its boy's own fantasy shit I get it... Bunch of soccer mad wogs wanna run a football club of their own (shit who hasn't fantasised about that with their mates,). The fact that they were able to leverage that off a corrupt AND inept FFA and also get in bed with an equally as dodgy council to pull it off reeks. When this goes belly up eventually none of these blokes will lose too much off it and all they'l leave behind is a (thankfully very small) number of disillusioned football fans. I was initially pissed at how they are portrayed as the "future of Australian soccer" but now just laugh and think good luck to them... I can't wait to see what Cinderella stories the 4 new franchises will bring the APL..... I think they'll also leave behind a conga line of investors wondering where their returns are on the property deal. These guys definitely weren't playing with their own money. Got a feeling the end is nigh. Unless there is more investment funds found soon. I've said it before. They are the Carlton SC of the A-league. They just went one better and won the GF. Hahahah well it was the mighty Hellas that stopped Carlton doing that remember :) hahahahahaahahah Best we could do this time around is to make them have travel to Tassie for Home games. Yes I do. Was a decent final. Boutsi was lucky to play that game. 😳😁
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIt's well documented that it wasn't about the money. Look at the Macarthur situation, the original bidder was asked to match the highest offer, and he politely declined, but still won the bid. In Melbourne, there were three things at play: - South Melbourne were not going to get the liicense full stop (despite having the best bid by miles) - both Melbourne clubs lobbied hard in favour of WU (and it's pretty obvious why they did that) - you have the con job perpetrated by WU. Only point I'd slightly change mate is that I seem to remember that fruit shop guy from Victory was more talking up the Team 11 bid over WU .. WMG wasn't even a blip on the radar until the last 2-3 weeks really..... People still thought it was that bullshit Geelong Patriots bid from memory..... I don't remember any existing club talking about a preference of bids. Only chatter of protecting "their patch". WU bid was a late move from the Victoria Patriots project by Horvat who tried to get the paparazzi photographe involved. Was never getting up. Then Lou Sticca got involved and your Greek mates had some investment fund money to throw away. 😉 And they flashed the cash like wogs on a night out at Chasers in the 90's. And the rest is history. Hahahahah I NEVER saw these meatball wankers at Delirium on Sundays.... NEVER..... Also the "Greek mates": jumped on later when the Probuild dildos went belly up and Sticca went running for the hills when he realised there was "no cash here...." BTW I had forgotten that ol Mozza Bisetto was the president (board member?) of newly promoted Moreland SC and saw him, pissed as a fart at Lakeside last night... He was getting uppity when they scored first and things turned hilarious when we won... Poor c#nt must have been pissed properly coz he asked 3 different people if they knew who he was? hahahahah Funniest line was a calm South supporter asking him how it feels to have not been able to build either Moreland OR WU a stadium... hahahahahah love the NPL. Oh well at least one of the WMG got to live out their fantasy and witness a game at the mighty Lakeside.... https://twitter.com/morelandcityfc/status/1023344080896458752?cxt=HHwWgICojaGB07McAAAA Probuild sponsored first year. Sticca tried to get them involved first year through the Andrew Zinni connection. They obviously wanted them to buy in and build stadium for them. I assume the $$$ didn't stack up. Probuild went bust a year or two later. Bissetto. What a clown. Heard him getting pissed was a regular occurrence in the WU corporate rooms. The guys running it their were making a motza on their salaries. Doing bugger all from the looks of it. They certainly are a funny bunch... Low class people all the way. To be completely fair to them ALL, its boy's own fantasy shit I get it... Bunch of soccer mad wogs wanna run a football club of their own (shit who hasn't fantasised about that with their mates,). The fact that they were able to leverage that off a corrupt AND inept FFA and also get in bed with an equally as dodgy council to pull it off reeks. When this goes belly up eventually none of these blokes will lose too much off it and all they'l leave behind is a (thankfully very small) number of disillusioned football fans. I was initially pissed at how they are portrayed as the "future of Australian soccer" but now just laugh and think good luck to them... I can't wait to see what Cinderella stories the 4 new franchises will bring the APL..... I think they'll also leave behind a conga line of investors wondering where their returns are on the property deal. These guys definitely weren't playing with their own money. Got a feeling the end is nigh. Unless there is more investment funds found soon. I've said it before. They are the Carlton SC of the A-league. They just went one better and won the GF. Hahahah well it was the mighty Hellas that stopped Carlton doing that remember :) hahahahahaahahah Best we could do this time around is to make them have travel to Tassie for Home games. Yes I do. Was a decent final. Boutsi was lucky to play that game. 😳😁 Bousti you can drive my car !!! :laugh:
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+x+xSo are they going bust or not? Let's forget all the bullshit With a CFG logo on your crest bud I wouldn't go round talking about bullshit :) I just follow football I could care less about the off field bullshit.fucking suits shouldn't even know their names
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+x+x+xSo are they going bust or not? Let's forget all the bullshit With a CFG logo on your crest bud I wouldn't go round talking about bullshit :) I just follow football I could care less about the off field bullshit.fucking suits shouldn't even know their names Modern football, brother. Modern football. The suits have unfortunately infiltrated.
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