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milan_7 - 13 Dec 2018 10:48 PM
What are the thoughts on team name, badge, colours etc?

I think Western Melbourne FC actually sounds good with some nickname that links to the area, but with Western Sydney, South West Sydney, Western Melbourne and Central Coast it sounds like we are just naming teams after directions. But I guess alienating it to a specific area (particular when they will be playing in Geelong initially) is not a good idea.

I could live with 'Wyndham Vale FC'. With their nickname being 'The Valiants'. A bit like Port Vale FC in England

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I think that’s the most interesting part about Team 11 not getting the licence.

David Gallop seemed to make the case about Casey Fields being unsuitable as a temporary venue, yet I am sure they would have at least been able to get their planned training complex, with the mini stadium for 5-10k up and running in year 2 at least. Year 3 could have been them move into their new stadium, whilst staying in the same general region.

Going against my initial feelings about the discussions, he also appeared to indicate that the Vic govt were generally supportive of the Team 11 stadium plans, but kept going back to their temporary arrangements as the issue.

Strange logic, which could well be a result of a lack of understanding of the Western region of Melbourne, which is not a cohesive catchment area in the traditional sense.


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The fact they were selected astounds me.

Victory has a massive hold on the west more than any other area so they need to really pull something out of their arse to make a success of it. Playing out of Geelong for 3 seasons is not going to do anyone any favours, especially when it becomes clear to everyone in their target region that until 2022, it's still easier to go watch Victory at Etihad than it is go watch their team that supposedly represents them.

At least Team 11 were going to still play in the South East in a temporary stadium rather than fly off to another city.



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Western Plains FC it is :)

Honestly, if they play in Geelong for a couple of years they surely can’t have Western Melbourne as their name if they want anyone showing up.
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milan_7 - 13 Dec 2018 10:48 PM
What are the thoughts on team name, badge, colours etc?

I think Western Melbourne FC actually sounds good with some nickname that links to the area, but with Western Sydney, South West Sydney, Western Melbourne and Central Coast it sounds like we are just naming teams after directions. But I guess alienating it to a specific area (particular when they will be playing in Geelong initially) is not a good idea.

They can't keep going for the generic names,  central coast and western Sydney work, they appear to have clear boarders but western Melbourne doesnt.

There really isn't a broader name for anything west of the yarra and i don't think people are going to relate to a name like wyndham.

Someone did say something like Westgate fc... but i do know that's taken,  but that never stopped Melbourne city. 

It needs to be non specific,  but something people can relate to. 

Call it You Yangs FC. You can see them from geelong and maybe from tarneit... if you climb a tree
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https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/western-melbourne-yet-to-strike-formal-agreement-to-play-at-kardinia-park-20181213-p50m4i.html?__twitter_impression=true

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Interesting bit of news.
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In all seriousness though, West Melbourne would be a brilliant spot for a BBL franchise. You'd get 50k each week, no problems.
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What are the thoughts on team name, badge, colours etc?

I think Western Melbourne FC actually sounds good with some nickname that links to the area, but with Western Sydney, South West Sydney, Western Melbourne and Central Coast it sounds like we are just naming teams after directions. But I guess alienating it to a specific area (particular when they will be playing in Geelong initially) is not a good idea.
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This club will struggle to get fans from areas like St Albans , Sunshine or Footscray, as it is easier to get into AAMI Park or Marvel Stadium than to Tarneit. The whole temporary base in Geelong part makes it even worse for connecting to their target market.

The Western Suburbs may have 1.5 million or so in its broader region, and it is certainly growing significantly, but one can realistically maybe count a quarter of that as a realistic zone at this stage.

As for the transport to the stadium, the Vic Govt announced prior to the election a Western Rail Plan that would see extra likes and a move towards electrification to Wydhamvale. As the stadium will be between Tarneit and Wydhamvale, a station has been proposed for that area in the original RRL line project for the future, so it could easily happen.

At the end of the day, one wonders what this will end up looking like as a club. It just seems to be a situation that they will be on the back foot for a few years, hoping desperately that their stadium turns around their fortunes. Relying on a smaller market like Geelong to fill the stadium will be hard work.

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Looks like people are warming up to the team
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a bit over 2km away, being V/Line, not sure how frequent trains are (that actually stop there)
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flat_eric - 13 Dec 2018 10:08 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 13 Dec 2018 1:50 PM

The site is on Sayers Road, about 2km away from the train station.

West tarneit is going to get built soonish. 


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Feed_The_Brox - 13 Dec 2018 1:50 PM
walnuts - 13 Dec 2018 1:13 PM

I don't know how to post screenshots here, but if you went to the PTV site and punched Geelong to Tarneit into the journey planner, it says 31 minutes (35 minutes to South Geelong where Kardinaia Park is located). admittedly trains aren't as frequent on weekends (every 40 minutes i think), but that will change once the line is electrified and quadruplicated. And there will be a train station at the site, thats why this specific site was chosen.

The site is on Sayers Road, about 2km away from the train station.
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RedKat - 13 Dec 2018 8:59 AM
What will their name be? What will their colours be? Who will their coach be? Who will they sign? Any proud West Melbournian Socceroos?

Someone on another forum proposed Wyndham as their name, I think that's not too bad and lays the groundwork for the future as the Werribee/Wyndham area is exploding.

If they give it a generic name (eg Western Melbourne or Victoria blah ) then I guarantee the club will be doomed...no doubt about it
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apillay12 - 13 Dec 2018 9:49 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 5:07 PM

Pretty much this

Which why snaring a player like Thomas Deng from Victory could be a good thing

And perhaps giving Elvis Kamsoba an A league contract

Deng is contracted  and elvis should  be signed by mv in jan. Wmg should  target  someone that  these kids would know . 

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 5:07 PM
sub007 - 13 Dec 2018 4:55 PM

There is a untapped market here. A lot of immigrants who love football . Hell there is heaps of Sudanese  youth who are obsessed  with chelsea and city but cant stand the hal due to it being not europe. T

Pretty much this

Which why snaring a player like Thomas Deng from Victory could be a good thing

And perhaps giving Elvis Kamsoba an A league contract
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 5:07 PM
sub007 - 13 Dec 2018 4:55 PM

There is a untapped market here. A lot of immigrants who love football . Hell there is heaps of Sudanese  youth who are obsessed  with chelsea and city but cant stand the hal due to it being not europe. T

That makes me feel a lot more optimistic.
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sub007 - 13 Dec 2018 4:55 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 4:46 PM

I genuinely hope this bid will be successful and attract new fans but most people I've seen on social media are in the same boat as you. They're Victory fans who are happy the bid got up but won't actually support the club. 

I hope I'm wrong and hope you're right but I can't see the club drawing many new fans.

There is a untapped market here. A lot of immigrants who love football . Hell there is heaps of Sudanese  youth who are obsessed  with chelsea and city but cant stand the hal due to it being not europe. T
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sanchez - 13 Dec 2018 5:00 PM
azzaMVFC - 13 Dec 2018 4:03 PM

A Geelong Advertiser FB post got 15 likes and two people saying they 'might even support them' and another saying they didn't think 3 Melbourne teams was a good idea. Metrics etc etc

They've got about 200 extra twitter followers today, broken the 2,000 mark

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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azzaMVFC - 13 Dec 2018 4:03 PM
I've found two fans so far.

As opposed to Canberra, Wollongong, South Melbourne, etc, who would have packed stands in football stadiums from day one.

A Geelong Advertiser FB post got 15 likes and two people saying they 'might even support them' and another saying they didn't think 3 Melbourne teams was a good idea. Metrics etc etc
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Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 4:46 PM
sub007 - 13 Dec 2018 4:36 PM

Never. Im happy  that this bid got in . But i bleed blue.. Also this bid can help get the heaps of football followers in the area who dont follow the hal. Hell a lot of indian families watch football but dont follow hal . I see my daughters friends at school wearing man united . Liverpool . Chelsea . City . Et al . This should change that , that and the wmg are going to engage  the local community 

I genuinely hope this bid will be successful and attract new fans but most people I've seen on social media are in the same boat as you. They're Victory fans who are happy the bid got up but won't actually support the club. 

I hope I'm wrong and hope you're right but I can't see the club drawing many new fans.
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Why not call themselves South Melbourne ?

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Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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From Geelong. Will not stop supporting Victory, but will definitely have a soft spot for West Melbourne. I will attend the occasional game while they are in Geelong. Obviously looking forward to the new derbies.
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Honestly this WMG licence thing is fucking ludicrous.

Their only saving grace will be if they throw the cash at imports for 4 years... IIRC they were going after Scott Brown??? It's going to take a lot more than a Scottish Broony to make up for the bullshit that will inevitable fall WMG's way.

Team 11 looked the more sustainable and football focused bid in Victoria, but would've preferred South over them as well. This is a shambles. Complete and utter shambles. 

Nothing has changed... 



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sub007 - 13 Dec 2018 4:36 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 4:34 PM

Just out of curiosity, are you going to support this team or stick with the current club you support?

Never. Im happy  that this bid got in . But i bleed blue.. Also this bid can help get the heaps of football followers in the area who dont follow the hal. Hell a lot of indian families watch football but dont follow hal . I see my daughters friends at school wearing man united . Liverpool . Chelsea . City . Et al . This should change that , that and the wmg are going to engage  the local community 
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tsf - 13 Dec 2018 4:19 PM
Was south willing to relocate? As in play out of geelong or the like? I can’t see how this bid can get enough interest. Time will tell though I guess.

South play out of Geelong?  Seriously?

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 13 Dec 2018 4:34 PM
Im a werribee boy. I know exactly  where the stadium  is gonna be. Also know the road  leading to it is a two laner and that developers have their greedy hands on the land . 

Just out of curiosity, are you going to support this team or stick with the current club you support?
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Im a werribee boy. I know exactly  where the stadium  is gonna be. Also know the road  leading to it is a two laner and that developers have their greedy hands on the land . 
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Was south willing to relocate? As in play out of geelong or the like?

I can’t see how this bid can get enough interest. Time will tell though I guess.

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