wtf are you even on about? they have their separate bids so obviously they're not part of BU's membership.

They'll play wherever their bid proposes

Did you have a 3 second deadline to meet to get something negative out of your keyboard without reading anything?

So Olympic and City can't play locally but "Strikers" can

Lol

Rabieh fan now

“With no natural rivals and no cultural background that is fixed to a nationality or country, we can confidently claim to be a club all of Brisbane can support, regardless of where you play, who you support or where your cultural heritage lies"

The assessment of teams for the NST should consider this example as one (there are others as well) of the most critical criterias required for entry.

Love the sound of it. They would have to be one of the favorites.

Sounds like they'll be upgrading their stadium, if they get in. If so, Brisbane may end up with small 2 botique sized stadiums for a rectangular football sport. Suncorp for the big matches / events.

EOI Submitted list

CONFIRMED ONLY

1. Gold Coast Knights
2. Sunshine Coast
3. Peninsula Power
4. Sydney Olympic
5. Brisbane Olympic
6. Rockdale Illinden
7. Preston Lions
8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt
9. Brisbane City
10. Canberra Croatia
11. Heidelberg United
12. Adelaide City
13. Gungahlin United
14. Brisbane United
15. Marconi
16. South Melbourne
17. South Hobart
18. Melbourne Knights
19. Brunswick Juventus
20. Avondale
21. Gold Coast United
22. SU58
23. Wollongong Wolves
24. Bentleigh Greens
25. Football South Australia

https://brisbaneunited.com.au/history-heritage-governance-and-government/

INAUGURAL Brisbane United Chair, Rabieh Krayem, says the values, principles and history forming the heart of the club’s culture will help the already promising relationships with local and state governments to flourish.After months of planning and connecting with political leaders, corporate Brisbane and local businesses alike, United are off to a great start with excitement and pledges of support for club’s vision and plans.“All levels of government need a compelling reason to support and help develop any sport. Our discussions so far with the Lord Mayor’s office and the State Government have been very, very positive,” Krayem said.“We presented a vision, a story, a project and a solution – we’re not here to tell all levels of government what to do; we’re here to present a compelling reason for them to work with us by demonstrating what we can give back to the community.“Our discussions to date, along with our future plans, give us great confidence that we can be the club who connects the game with local government in a new and exciting way.“This can only be good for football and we feel sure there will be some positive news for Perry Park along the way.”

“Importantly, we don’t have any local rivals as we don’t, and won’t, compete in any of the local competitions.” 

Krayem said the history of the two founding clubs, coupled with Brisbane United’s neutrality on the local scene, were key points in the overall value proposition.“This club will be driven by the community and the local clubs. We are a not-for-profit, membership-based model designed to be inclusive and collaborative, so everyone can feel a sense of ownership,” he said.“Importantly, we don’t have any local rivals as we don’t, and won’t, compete in any of the local competitions. In the research we conducted, this was a common theme and its importance cannot be underestimated, given that it was seen as a potential barrier to support. People find it hard to support a team they play against.“With no natural rivals and no cultural background that is fixed to a nationality or country, we can confidently claim to be a club all of Brisbane can support, regardless of where you play, who you support or where your cultural heritage lies.“Our clear goals are for United to be the club that Brisbane kids aspire to play for. It won’t matter if you play for Strikers, Wynnum, or any other member club. Our pathways will be built for the sole purpose of developing players to compete at National Second Division level and beyond.“We are here to work with the football community and complement what is in place now. The club was born from collaboration and that is the principle we’ll go forward with.“Brisbane United has been founded by two iconic local clubs with great history between them. Wynnum Wolves are now 101 years old and we founded by one of Australia’s most successful builders, Jack Hutchinson“Who can forget what Frank Farina’s Strikers did for the game with their famous NSL win in 1997? It was a memorable day for football and now, 26 years later, the new Brisbane United is launched. “History, tradition, memories and success are all vital features of our game and will be cornerstones of Brisbane United’s culture and values.”

You're right, it's a strange one. What I was trying to address with my point was the claim that Brisbane Strikers "aren't there". They're very much there. Brisbane Strikers and Wynnum joined the venture. They're using Brisbane Striker's original brand. They're playing at Perry Park. Other clubs can come in to their membership, but they will be feeders under the United banner and from what I understand, won't be considered the equal member of BS/WW in the overall structure.

Third team for BU is Virginia utd fc. The team will play at Perry Park.

Brisbane United is a Weird one

It's a joint venture in that there are 3 members.
Strikers, Wynnum and 1 other minnow are starting members but other clubs can  join. 

See Rabiehs video

Looks like any 'member' won't have to forego its current league spot like all the others

Good point about the possible impact to the selection process the forthcoming Olympics will have.

For certain Brisbane will also have an extra stadium to start with.

Brisbane isn't a football market in the sense of the player base of Sydney. But in the years since the NSL it has grown to the point of being crucial as an economic zone to expand into. Brisbane today is almost the same size as Melbourne was in the NSL. It's also going to go into the mode of an Olympic city where strong clubs can vie for public investment (training venues for olympics etc that would leave a legacy for grass roots football.). For those who think that isn't a factor, consider this. There will be public money and the AFL will have its fkn fingers, fist, arm in that pie insisting that this all go towards womens AFL after they "invented" womens sport 5 years ago...

If we were to go in lean and keep the costs down and maximise efficiencies in travel costs, the suitable format from this list would be a 10 team league first up consolidated on Sydney. My core list:

Sydney Olympic
Sydney United
Wollongong
Marconi
APIA
South Melbourne
Melbourne Knights
Brisbane United
Brisbane City
Adelaide City

An 18 round season doesn't get enough football in the legs and gives fewer matches to generate revenue. So from there, I think you then strategise over which clubs you can add without seriously affecting the cost base. This brings in, in my order of preference:

Melbourne's best of the rest
Canberra
The Hunter
Gold Coast
Sunshine Coast

The issue here is that I don't think any of the bids from these regions cut it. In the case of Hunter, nobody submitted an EOI. So, at that point, I think it's about weighing up the best bid from these regions against whatever left in Sydney and Melbourne and going with the strongest bid on fundamentals. to me this would be sizing up Heidelberg and Bentleigh to see if they're for real.

Adding more from Sydney and Melbourne doesn't dillute the base in the same way that 9 awfl teams in a single city does. These are established clubs with a core base. They're not competing with each other for top tier national brand sponsorship, they're powered from within. If the remaining SYD/MEL clubs can put up the funds, they should be in without questions of crowding the market. Sydney and Melbourne are each almost the same population as the whole of Scotland and they get by with a fully professional premiership.

I thought the Brisbane United EOI was a joint venture, but if it's the old Brisbane Strikers......happy days.

In Queensland there needs to be 1 club at least, if not 2 in Brisbane as a potential future alternative for Roar when P&R kicks in and there has to be geographical spread ie gold coast, sunshine coast as viable options. Shame there's nothing further north than the Sunshine Coast. Qld has the biggest decentralized population in Australia and there's plenty of talent everywhere. Part of the NST is to also attract talent.

And one more from me

5) Grounds like Perrry Park, Marconi, Edensor is what lower league football is all about. That we'll see professionals on them is fantastic for football. As a kid, not being Italian didn't stop me ever going to see Adelaide City at what was my local ground Hindmarsh. For all the crying about being "broad" in appeal, the thing the AL doesn't have is being connected to football communities in the places where they live. Kids just want to hop on over and see the footy on a Saturday. This is what our game lacks and what it needs and it's at the perfect time. 

Few things to point out.

1) Brisbane Lions not bidding says nothing of the NSD or "the model" or anything of this nature. The issue is that they were seriously damaged by their AL venture to the point that they had to sell off a chunk of land to cover the losses. They've been on record for a number of years saying they're shying away from stepping up based on their experience. It's about them, not the prospects of the league.

2) Brisbane Strikers were originally founded as Brisbane United in 1991. See the 1991 in their logo? The Strikers have submitted an EOI under their original name.

3) Travel costs are out the window as a factor in this league setup. No WA teams, one Adelaide team. Consolidation around VIC/NSW and what is the most efficient, highest patronage flight route in the world make the travelling costs for most teams no different than putting together a 30 man team bus in small to middling European countries.

4) The prospect of having Sydney Olympic, Wollongong, Marconi, Adelaide City, Stirkers/United, South Melbnourne back is just amazing for football. Apologies to any I left out, can't list them all and it's not intentional. These are amazing times. For the first time since basically 2015 I'm excited about our game's direction once again. Bring. It. ON.

The FA has said it will be between 10 and 16, but it depends heavily on the quality of the proposals. Looking at that list I reckon it could be closer to 10-12 rather than 16. At 16 the gulf between the bigger clubs and the smaller clubs might be too big to start off with. 

Well...
I'd be only looking at the return of the NSL. 

Knights. 
South 
Preston 
Wolves 
Marconi 
Olympic. 

Can't see much from Brisbane. Not that I know the market well
I always thought the Lions were the only one that could step up. The fact they haven't says a lot. These guys started the roar. So they know better about what they're getting into. 
Adelaide. Nothing exciting either. Adelaide City is not the  City of old. 

Watch the rhetoric from JJ. 
Something along the lines of "we have delayed the beginning of the NST, until we work with the club's and prepare them better etc etc "

which ones do you have doubts about? SU58 and suncoast (too small a population) are the only ones that stood out to me

Quite a number from Qld. Pity nothing from further up north. Had little doubt Brisbane City would finally come into it. Surprised the Strikers didn't put up their hand. 
A thorough review needs to be done, but at the top of my head the success likelihood rating as numbered:

7. Gold Coast Knights
3. Sunshine Coast
4. Peninsula Power
6. Brisbane Olympic
2. Brisbane City
5. Brisbane United
1. Gold Coast United

Be lucky to get a decent 8 out of that list. 

Kind of got feeling this won't be starting in 2024. 

FMD

You seem to be drunk on your Friday arvo posts

While totally agreeing with your points in regards to being a very strong club, large fan base & producing some Australia's best players, can we accept their attitudes & the attitudes of their fans in this day & age, This is no longer the 1950s, 60s or 70s.
Doesn't take much for them to change. A few coloured players, a women's team & maybe a pride round for their juniors, surely in today's climate not too hard to ask.

We already have conferences.  It's called the NPL.  Let's never speak of it again.

24 clubs is pretty decent. A few years of P&R and hopefully the pool gets big enough to support 3 divisions

Lets hope 2 divisions are viable first though...

No
The format or even if it will go ahead isn't sure

This is only EOI submissions to start shaping it

has it been decided how many teams will be in the NSD, is it between 10-12 or?

Interesting.  Select the lot of them.  Lower the costs and requirements.  Split into 2 conferences and play for 3 seasons and on results over that period determine who goes into the 2nd division with the rest having the option to play in a third division along with clubs from the NPL who have used the 3 years to develop themselves.

EOI Submitted list

CONFIRMED ONLY

1. Gold Coast Knights
2. Sunshine Coast
3. Peninsula Power
4. Sydney Olympic
5. Brisbane Olympic
6. Rockdale Illinden
7. Preston Lions
8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt
9. Brisbane City
10. Canberra Croatia
11. Heidelberg United
12. Adelaide City
13. Gungahlin United
14. Brisbane United
15. Marconi
16. South Melbourne
17. South Hobart
18. Melbourne Knights
19. Brunswick Juventus
20. Avondale
21. Gold Coast United
22. SU58
23. Wollongong Wolves
24. Bentleigh Greens

Not to mention, from a Marconi perspective.