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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
Fremantle City... :laugh: They just used this as a ploy to poach junior NPL players from other clubs in WA. " Come play for Fremantle, your son will be playing for us in the A-League in a few years. See, we even have a website saying so!". Sadly, there were parents who fell for it. I'm sure there are clubs doing the same thing now for the NST. Not just for juniors but also for their current NPL teams. "Join us this season for the NPL and you'll be playing in the second division next year"
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+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
Fremantle City... :laugh: They just used this as a ploy to poach junior NPL players from other clubs in WA. " Come play for Fremantle, your son will be playing for us in the A-League in a few years. See, we even have a website saying so!". Sadly, there were parents who fell for it.
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absolutely and in todays way of "inclusion" and all the FA would need to be veryvery careful on the grounds why X large Club that measures up to all the requirements applicable being incl in the NST sure will need to have covered their backs (with their lawyers advise)........... Discrimination today is a lawsuit melting pot.
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+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. Probably a fairly accurate assessment. But agreed, imo the ethnicity of the clubs founders should be irrelevant if we’re trying to move into a post NCIP era as a unified sport. We can’t really afford to be excluding some of our strongest clubs on that basis tbh, there’s already a fairly limited number of clubs which can probably actually sustain this. If its the case that 2 of those clubs in Melbourne happen to be “Greek clubs” and 2 of those clubs in Sydney happen to be “Italian”, so be it. We need our biggest clubs in this for it be given its best chance of success. Same goes for geographic location
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+x+x+xQueenslandPeninsula Power Olympic FC Sunshine Coast Fire Gold Coast Knights Wynnum Wolves Brisbane United (composite club) will confirm when known and not sure if this part of Brisbane Strikers or if Strikers have applied. NSWAPIA Marconi Sydney Olympic Sydney United Wollongong Wolves VictoriaHeidelberg United Melbourne Knights South Melbourne Hume City Preston Lions Brunswick Juventus Caroline Springs George Cross TasmaniaSouth Hobart South AustraliaAdelaide City Great start with EOI entries, really interesting is the number of Club in Queensland with the ambition to reach a higher level. Their aspiration deserves a lot of credit, whether they make it or not. Behind these Clubs, some clubs I've spoken to realise they aren't ready, they do want to reach the NST level. To achieve that goal they are already putting together 5 year strategic plans together. It's becoming evident that having this new national platform is infuenceing clubs to plan, invest and aspire. Looks like my mail on Brisbane United could be on the cards, numklpkgulftumch. I'd be interested to know at what stage in the process do the full list of current applications gets published. Or is it only at the final declaration ? They may not publish a full list of applicants, but I would imagine they would likely publish the shortlisted applications. This would be in April sometime.
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+x+xQueenslandPeninsula Power Olympic FC Sunshine Coast Fire Gold Coast Knights Wynnum Wolves Brisbane United (composite club) will confirm when known and not sure if this part of Brisbane Strikers or if Strikers have applied. NSWAPIA Marconi Sydney Olympic Sydney United Wollongong Wolves VictoriaHeidelberg United Melbourne Knights South Melbourne Hume City Preston Lions Brunswick Juventus Caroline Springs George Cross TasmaniaSouth Hobart South AustraliaAdelaide City Great start with EOI entries, really interesting is the number of Club in Queensland with the ambition to reach a higher level. Their aspiration deserves a lot of credit, whether they make it or not. Behind these Clubs, some clubs I've spoken to realise they aren't ready, they do want to reach the NST level. To achieve that goal they are already putting together 5 year strategic plans together. It's becoming evident that having this new national platform is infuenceing clubs to plan, invest and aspire. Looks like my mail on Brisbane United could be on the cards, numklpkgulftumch. I'd be interested to know at what stage in the process do the full list of current applications gets published. Or is it only at the final declaration ?
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+xQueenslandPeninsula Power Olympic FC Sunshine Coast Fire Gold Coast Knights Wynnum Wolves Brisbane United (composite club) will confirm when known and not sure if this part of Brisbane Strikers or if Strikers have applied. NSWAPIA Marconi Sydney Olympic Sydney United Wollongong Wolves VictoriaHeidelberg United Melbourne Knights South Melbourne Hume City Preston Lions Brunswick Juventus Caroline Springs George Cross TasmaniaSouth Hobart South AustraliaAdelaide City Great start with EOI entries, really interesting is the number of Club in Queensland with the ambition to reach a higher level. Their aspiration deserves a lot of credit, whether they make it or not. Behind these Clubs, some clubs I've spoken to realise they aren't ready, they do want to reach the NST level. To achieve that goal they are already putting together 5 year strategic plans together. It's becoming evident that having this new national platform is infuenceing clubs to plan, invest and aspire. Looks like my mail on Brisbane United could be on the cards, numklpkgulftumch.
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+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. Thats not really fair mate... Why cant we have suspended sanctions and pretend "life bans" for fans like the franchises? Well that's what I meant. They'll need to be prepared to accept a threat of sanctions, points deductions, etc.
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+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. Thats not really fair mate... Why cant we have suspended sanctions and pretend "life bans" for fans like the franchises?
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+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
The years have passed so quickly. Southern expansion. Man I totally forgot about that shit 🤣 Was Southern expansion the one backed by Chinese property developers? and Craig Foster and technological undergarments that would let you enter the stadium and swipe your left but cheek to order a beer or something.........
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNST potential EOI of 20+ clubs is getting me excited about as much as I got excited for the Aleague 15 interested bids back in 2018. Pretty much bugger all. Those that have been around football long enough know what I'm talking about. Putting in an EOI does not show us that there is an increase in investment in clubs to grow with the ambition of becoming professional and complying with the requirements. Most of the EOIs are due to egos or fomo. Most clubs would see the proposal, and know it's asking way too much. Yeah I reackon there is a bit of that going on ........ I agree... However, wait till the end of next week, I am hoping the list is a lot larger than we anticipated..... I'd expect an 8-10 team league initially. I can't see any clubs being viable more than that figure. A big concern is that some of the club's putting in an EOI may need to find a venue to play out of?? That is not what I'd want to see. These clubs need to have solid foundations that requires a minimal jump in an NST. GC Knights being one. They're just a "big club" because a rich cro bloke is pumping on the $$$. That's great, but clubs need more than that. Altona Gate Darth Vader were a "big club" in the VPL in the 90's and were gonna join the NSL with an Essendon link. We all know how that played out. Hahahahahah gold..... :) I get where you are coming from, maybe these clubs can simply "promise to build a "shovel ready" stadium and that will be enough.... :) Those in Vic/Qld in the know who are the most viable and or certainties barring definately SMH ? South Melbourne are obviously a lock. If they were shortlisted for the A-League and very nearly (and should've) made it in, then they will definitely be in the NST. Melbourne Knights would be pretty solid. They own their stadium and have a very lucrative social club, so their financials should be well in order. They should have no problem ticking all of the right boxes. The others are not so clear though. At a guess I'd Preston, Heidelberg, Hume, Bentleigh would be up there but really hard to say. Oakleigh have already come out to say the aren't interested, as have Avondale and Bulleen.... Bentleigh I dont think are even on the radar of anyone, let alone themselves... small club (with arguably great results on the pitch the last few years) Preston and the Bergers (I think) will have to fight it out and whoever get up over the other there will be a bit of bad blood - as if it was ever NOT going to be bad blood heheheheh. Two "interesting" bids for me are: 1)Hume.. They have an OK ish ground for this (although it gets bloody cold there in winter, it does have more seating than the WU training abomination) but I thought their financial backer (a builder) was on hard times... Maybe they have sourced some funding and if so, why not. 2) George Cross - fabulous old historical club, I understand they have a bit of cashola from the move to City Vista and a fairly eneretic board and membership base... would love to have them in. It's one of those situations where if one of a number of these clubs can secure some good investment they may be able to get across the line. Over the last couple of weeks, I've found that you talk to one person (who claims to have inside knowledge), and they say <insert club name here> will be in for sure. Then you talk to another person (who also claims to have inside knowledge) and they will say that same club are not even close and won't even apply. A lot of unknowns with the Vic clubs at the moment. I reckon the lockdowns may have taken a toll on a few that otherwise would have had a crack. Well I know of one club that "will be in for sure" hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah Marconi? how could they possibly look past the aforementioned giant ball at the palace ;) "The Palace"...... hahahahahah , thanks for the happy memory... Havent heard that for a while.....
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
The years have passed so quickly. Southern expansion. Man I totally forgot about that shit 🤣 Was Southern expansion the one backed by Chinese property developers?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNST potential EOI of 20+ clubs is getting me excited about as much as I got excited for the Aleague 15 interested bids back in 2018. Pretty much bugger all. Those that have been around football long enough know what I'm talking about. Putting in an EOI does not show us that there is an increase in investment in clubs to grow with the ambition of becoming professional and complying with the requirements. Most of the EOIs are due to egos or fomo. Most clubs would see the proposal, and know it's asking way too much. Yeah I reackon there is a bit of that going on ........ I agree... However, wait till the end of next week, I am hoping the list is a lot larger than we anticipated..... I'd expect an 8-10 team league initially. I can't see any clubs being viable more than that figure. A big concern is that some of the club's putting in an EOI may need to find a venue to play out of?? That is not what I'd want to see. These clubs need to have solid foundations that requires a minimal jump in an NST. GC Knights being one. They're just a "big club" because a rich cro bloke is pumping on the $$$. That's great, but clubs need more than that. Altona Gate Darth Vader were a "big club" in the VPL in the 90's and were gonna join the NSL with an Essendon link. We all know how that played out. Hahahahahah gold..... :) I get where you are coming from, maybe these clubs can simply "promise to build a "shovel ready" stadium and that will be enough.... :) hehe to true but we get where Butler is coming from and agreed. I suppose its ok some of the Clubs to dream despite them not being in a suitable position to be in the NST, suck and see and naturally would be rejected for all involved can't afford this slapping them in the face let alone putting the game back even further. Hindsight is the wonderful thing. Surely the AAFC and the FA have the nouse of the past as some have mentioned, its all there for all to see can we do the same mistakes come 2023/4 ? hey don't say it lol - sure there will be some hiccups/tweaks but damn this has got to get off the ground so much looking ahead and 10clubs is fine to start with maybe pushing 12. The current list incl recent additions pretty much shows the main contenders (10/12) capable to start it off. IMO NSW alone the 6 (incls Rockdale) have the background/facilites and obviously need to gain more revenue ahead will be approved unless someone says otherwise of X Club. Those in Vic/Qld in the know who are the most viable and or certainties barring definately SMH ? LFC sorry about the 5-2 result, that was horrible. Either Klopp goes or he rebuilds, needs midfielders, though the young Spanish/Serbian guy looks good. Do you know any rich Portuguese guy willing to back Rockdale? haha the highs and lows of a supporter, trust you to bring it up :) The Serb/Spanyal kid reminds me of Gavi/Pedri, play well above their age and huge promise yer. yer that so re Rockdale, news to me, might have to ask some of the port mafia if they know of this. OK re Vic, MK would be pretty safe getting in with SMH, the rest we will see. MSC, my Prestons contact sent me a sponsership proposal for this season actually, looked pretty polished that I politely declined but he quotes they financially stable and word that getting some localGov funding for ground redevelopment.Also said was the whole purpose reaching out for funding of any kind for their serious about NSD/T looking ahead. Cheeez re the Jnr fees, fellas the ball even hasn't got to approve stage how could any Club say anything about Jnr fees from next season. I'm with you its excessive but lets not push the chicken before the egg boundary yet eh. This is concrete and great that Preston is shopping around for corporate dollars too (although DONT YOU DARE sponsor them,.... heheheheheh) This is exactly what the exciting thing is, clubs aspiring to make a go of it..... God I cant wait for this to start. ok cool they are getting funding good news....... Hahaha yer no I couldn't get behind them, I got enough politics to deal with let alone you on my back here lol........ Hahahahahahah
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+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD.
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so SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind
Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters
GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United)
It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs
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+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
The years have passed so quickly. Southern expansion. Man I totally forgot about that shit 🤣
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+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
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+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this)
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+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go
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+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST.
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+xI would also get the notion that the NST is "Full Time Professional" across the board from players coaches and administrators is not a given. The NPL CLubs have been constrained for two decades now, told they won't be on a National Platform, won't have a remote possibility of being in the ALM and siloed into NPL to produce players for the ALM and Socceroos, that's your role. Quite frankly they were neutralised. Give the NST some time to get used to the idea of the chains being removed and work towards growth and capability. It's only logical. I have consistantly said if we want to improve having an existing NST in the NPL, with over 120 clubs and 2,500 players was not going to cut it. With a NST of 12-14 teams we will get better outcomes, even if part time initially. Clubs will be ambitious and wanting success, the way consistant success will come is naturally to become more professional. So on a more professional footing yes, absolutely. Part time professional Yes to start. My other concern is that many are saying have a closed league NST for 3-5 years. Absolutely NOT. Maybe a one year grace period for pro/rel from NST to NPL that's the limit. Otherwise we fall into the same trap. Pro/Rel will always have the caveat that a Club comming up to the NST will be required to have the minimum criteria, its a given. Having Pro/Rel after one year grace allows for ambition, investment and strategic planning from Clubs in the NPL to aspire to the NST, obvious I would have thought. We don't know if many of the clubs can raise to the requirements and criteria of a NST yet and you're already talking about P&R after 1 year?..... (where's that image of a fairy I can use)!
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Im guessing Arthurs list of 20 is those who registered to put in an EOI submission.
3rd March is then when they have to be lodged
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+xI didn't realise Brunswick Juventus was still a thing. Brings back personal happy memories
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+x+x+x+x+xQueenslandPeninsula Power Olympic FC Sunshine Coast Fire Gold Coast Knights Wynnum Wolves Brisbane United (composite club) will confirm when known and not sure if this part of Brisbane Strikers or if Strikers have applied. NSWAPIA Marconi Sydney Olympic Sydney United Wollongong Wolves VictoriaHeidelberg United Melbourne Knights South Melbourne Hume City Preston Lions Brunswick Juventus Caroline Springs George Cross TasmaniaSouth Hobart South AustraliaAdelaide City Great start with EOI entries, really interesting is the number of Club in Queensland with the ambition to reach a higher level. Their aspiration deserves a lot of credit, whether they make it or not. Behind these Clubs, some clubs I've spoken to realise they aren't ready, they do want to reach the NST level. To achieve that goal they are already putting together 5 year strategic plans together. It's becoming evident that having this new national platform is infuenceing clubs to plan, invest and aspire. So, it looks like Canberra will be one of the ALM expansion clubs A League expansion? You jest obviously . 🤣🤣🤣 More realistic than P&R. I jest not. Why would they pay in the millions when the NST is a lot cheaper to apply to and would have a great feel good factor in the first couple of seasons? If Canberra wanted to form a mainstream club just so to play in lower leagues, they would have done it by now.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNST potential EOI of 20+ clubs is getting me excited about as much as I got excited for the Aleague 15 interested bids back in 2018. Pretty much bugger all. Those that have been around football long enough know what I'm talking about. Putting in an EOI does not show us that there is an increase in investment in clubs to grow with the ambition of becoming professional and complying with the requirements. Most of the EOIs are due to egos or fomo. Most clubs would see the proposal, and know it's asking way too much. Yeah I reackon there is a bit of that going on ........ I agree... However, wait till the end of next week, I am hoping the list is a lot larger than we anticipated..... I'd expect an 8-10 team league initially. I can't see any clubs being viable more than that figure. A big concern is that some of the club's putting in an EOI may need to find a venue to play out of?? That is not what I'd want to see. These clubs need to have solid foundations that requires a minimal jump in an NST. GC Knights being one. They're just a "big club" because a rich cro bloke is pumping on the $$$. That's great, but clubs need more than that. Altona Gate Darth Vader were a "big club" in the VPL in the 90's and were gonna join the NSL with an Essendon link. We all know how that played out. Hahahahahah gold..... :) I get where you are coming from, maybe these clubs can simply "promise to build a "shovel ready" stadium and that will be enough.... :) Those in Vic/Qld in the know who are the most viable and or certainties barring definately SMH ? South Melbourne are obviously a lock. If they were shortlisted for the A-League and very nearly (and should've) made it in, then they will definitely be in the NST. Melbourne Knights would be pretty solid. They own their stadium and have a very lucrative social club, so their financials should be well in order. They should have no problem ticking all of the right boxes. The others are not so clear though. At a guess I'd Preston, Heidelberg, Hume, Bentleigh would be up there but really hard to say. Oakleigh have already come out to say the aren't interested, as have Avondale and Bulleen.... Bentleigh I dont think are even on the radar of anyone, let alone themselves... small club (with arguably great results on the pitch the last few years) Preston and the Bergers (I think) will have to fight it out and whoever get up over the other there will be a bit of bad blood - as if it was ever NOT going to be bad blood heheheheh. Two "interesting" bids for me are: 1)Hume.. They have an OK ish ground for this (although it gets bloody cold there in winter, it does have more seating than the WU training abomination) but I thought their financial backer (a builder) was on hard times... Maybe they have sourced some funding and if so, why not. 2) George Cross - fabulous old historical club, I understand they have a bit of cashola from the move to City Vista and a fairly eneretic board and membership base... would love to have them in. SA clubs seem quiet. QLD clubs are keen, but their biggest isn't yet? Lions? Looks like we're expecting a second tier of Vic and NSW clubs. Not a bad thing for me. Perhaps will make it more viable. It aint over till the fat lady sings I suppose ..... True. When is cutoff ? One week... March 3rd? Yeah I think so..... There are lots of rumours flying around, as I expected.... All I know is, its match day today and this year I am going to enjoy going around to all the suburban clubs I hopefully wont be seeing for a very very long time.... FORZA HELLAS !!!!!!!!!! Still pinching myself that the days of glorified park football finally seem to be coming to an end. Will be interesting to see how the last ~18 years in the state leagues will be viewed by the fan bases with the passage of time. As captivating as fixtures like south v eastern lions or Marconi v macarthur u21 are ..
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Strikers and Wynnum Wolves could join, although, Olympic fc are a better run entity and could go it alone.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNST potential EOI of 20+ clubs is getting me excited about as much as I got excited for the Aleague 15 interested bids back in 2018. Pretty much bugger all. Those that have been around football long enough know what I'm talking about. Putting in an EOI does not show us that there is an increase in investment in clubs to grow with the ambition of becoming professional and complying with the requirements. Most of the EOIs are due to egos or fomo. Most clubs would see the proposal, and know it's asking way too much. Yeah I reackon there is a bit of that going on ........ I agree... However, wait till the end of next week, I am hoping the list is a lot larger than we anticipated..... I'd expect an 8-10 team league initially. I can't see any clubs being viable more than that figure. A big concern is that some of the club's putting in an EOI may need to find a venue to play out of?? That is not what I'd want to see. These clubs need to have solid foundations that requires a minimal jump in an NST. GC Knights being one. They're just a "big club" because a rich cro bloke is pumping on the $$$. That's great, but clubs need more than that. Altona Gate Darth Vader were a "big club" in the VPL in the 90's and were gonna join the NSL with an Essendon link. We all know how that played out. Hahahahahah gold..... :) I get where you are coming from, maybe these clubs can simply "promise to build a "shovel ready" stadium and that will be enough.... :) Those in Vic/Qld in the know who are the most viable and or certainties barring definately SMH ? South Melbourne are obviously a lock. If they were shortlisted for the A-League and very nearly (and should've) made it in, then they will definitely be in the NST. Melbourne Knights would be pretty solid. They own their stadium and have a very lucrative social club, so their financials should be well in order. They should have no problem ticking all of the right boxes. The others are not so clear though. At a guess I'd Preston, Heidelberg, Hume, Bentleigh would be up there but really hard to say. Oakleigh have already come out to say the aren't interested, as have Avondale and Bulleen.... Bentleigh I dont think are even on the radar of anyone, let alone themselves... small club (with arguably great results on the pitch the last few years) Preston and the Bergers (I think) will have to fight it out and whoever get up over the other there will be a bit of bad blood - as if it was ever NOT going to be bad blood heheheheh. Two "interesting" bids for me are: 1)Hume.. They have an OK ish ground for this (although it gets bloody cold there in winter, it does have more seating than the WU training abomination) but I thought their financial backer (a builder) was on hard times... Maybe they have sourced some funding and if so, why not. 2) George Cross - fabulous old historical club, I understand they have a bit of cashola from the move to City Vista and a fairly eneretic board and membership base... would love to have them in. It's one of those situations where if one of a number of these clubs can secure some good investment they may be able to get across the line. Over the last couple of weeks, I've found that you talk to one person (who claims to have inside knowledge), and they say <insert club name here> will be in for sure. Then you talk to another person (who also claims to have inside knowledge) and they will say that same club are not even close and won't even apply. A lot of unknowns with the Vic clubs at the moment. I reckon the lockdowns may have taken a toll on a few that otherwise would have had a crack. Well I know of one club that "will be in for sure" hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah Marconi? how could they possibly look past the aforementioned giant ball at the palace ;)
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