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+x+x+x+xFair play to them, since dropping into the state league post nsl they have been there or there abouts most seasons. For those outside of nsw, I think it’s worth noting that the expected applications from ex sydney nsl clubs aren’t just based on nostalgia. The likes of Sydney Olympic, Sydney United, Marconi, APIA etc have been up near the top of the league most years baring the odd bad season here or there since the end of the nsl. They genuinely are still some of the stronger clubs that nsw npl have to offer Reckon we may have seen a different Marconi because they were relegated in 2015 and out of the NPL for 2016 and 2017. Especially relevant because the AAFC was formed in 2017. Yes Marconi is a genuinely strong club, but these simple facts help along the argument that the NSD at its inception wasn't 100% merit focused. Painful period for the club. Marconi’s river plate/Juventus moment, a blight on it’s proud history. Showed character that the club was able to regroup and bounce back imo, so to get back onto the national stage once again would be a real triumph after all that.
To clarify your point, are you suggesting that the club did bounce back because of the “sniff” the foundation of the AAFC gave them? Quite possible.
i had heard that the board had hit breaking point just prior to the relegation season having just seen a large chunk of their squad taken by a league clubs…again, and having barely been compensated financially..again. Marconi has always been know for producing players, and had frequently been a favourite “hunting ground” for a league clubs. Apparently some people at the top were beginning to question whether it was worth all the effort they were putting into their squad only to be continually looted and essentially were starting to “give up” with no light at the end of the tunnel and no sign that things were going to change, it seemed as though this was just the new reality for the club. Then something obviously prompted a turn around, because the club now seems to have no problem opening the check book again these days.
That’s all hearsay though Marconi is an aspirational club and for one with such a solid off field foundation and contribution to the national game, deserved to be in a better place. I wasn't following things at NPL level with some of these clubs because it wasn't really fitting to watch proud clubs going sideways with nothing to hope for. I don't think the AAFC/NSD was the impetus to get them back up - they're a proud enough and good enough club to earn promotion off their own back. But I suspect at the same time, if there had been something to play for this whole time, they would'nt have fallen like they did. Well said.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city? Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group? Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties And they were Italian you say? Crazy nah never crazy/loco/mato/pazzo On that train of thought HEAVEN is where the police are British the chefs are French (debatable yes I know) the mechanics are German the lovers are Italian and its all organised by the Swiss HELL is where the chefs are British the mechanics are French the lovers are Swiss the police are German and its all organised by the Italians :) HAHA
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+xEOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast 3. Peninsular Power 4. Sydney Olympic 5. Brisbane Olympic 6. Rockdale Illinden 7. Preston Lions 8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt 9. Brisbane City Point of order: Peninsula Power
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Its gonna be a fun day today :)
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x EOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast 3. Peninsula Power 4. Sydney Olympic 5. Brisbane Olympic 6. Rockdale Illinden 7. Preston Lions 8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt 9. Brisbane City 10. Canberra Croatia
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+x+x EOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast 3. Peninsula Power 4. Sydney Olympic 5. Brisbane Olympic 6. Rockdale Illinden 7. Preston Lions 8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt 9. Brisbane City 10. Canberra Croatia Haha love that. One of the more humorous announcements thus far. Btw Heidelberg were another club that were in dire straits a few years ago, relegated, couldn’t pay their players at one point, under 18 forfeiting games due to lack of players etc but they’ve pulled it back are now looking like one of the stronger clubs at npl level, and likely one of the strongest bids to get back onto the national stage via the NSD. Good on em
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11 is surely enough bids to avoid a champions league format
Not home and hosed yet but a real nst is looking almost certain
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+x11 is surely enough bids to avoid a champions league format Not home and hosed yet but a real nst is looking almost certain There are definitely more bids. Just because a club hasn't made an announcement doesn't mean they haven't already submitted a response a week ago. I'd be very surprised if the FA receive less than 20 responses. I'd assume closer to 25.
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+x11 is surely enough bids to avoid a champions league format Not home and hosed yet but a real nst is looking almost certain You do realise this is just EOI, not actually applying ?
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+x11 is surely enough bids to avoid a champions league format Not home and hosed yet but a real nst is looking almost certain They're EOI's only. They'd have to be checked and you'd imagine a few will get turfed for creative accountancy. You'll need at least 20 and select the best 12 or 14.
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+x+x11 is surely enough bids to avoid a champions league format Not home and hosed yet but a real nst is looking almost certain They're EOI's only. They'd have to be checked and you'd imagine a few will get turfed for creative accountancy. You'll need at least 20 and select the best 12 or 14. Not even. An EOI response is nothing. It's the RFP phase that matters. Let's say the FA receive 30 EOI responses. They would then want to shortlist at least 20 of them. They then ask those 20 to submit a proposal and pay their $25k bond. This is where the hard work is. Anyone can pay $5k and submit an EOI response. Putting together a coherent and appealing proposal is no small task. Only then do we hope the FA has at least 10 suitable (ideally more) clubs to start a proper league.
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Is Canberra Croatia confirmed? Fantastic news
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+x+xGlenardo, what was this all about. I have been told it was deleted later. President’s Message A warm welcome to all our Sponsors, Members and Supporters, who I have no doubt would have turned up in big numbers for today’s vitally important clash v Marconi Stallions. Obviously, it has been a great start to the Season, but caution must prevail, as this is the longest season ever, with 25 matches remaining. With such a long season, squad depth and numbers are vitally important, and in this instance I note the loss of Jason Romero, which is disappointing, but I wish him all the very best moving forward. What is absolutely amazing, at this stage, but yet to be officially confirmed we are unable to replace Jason, until the window opens in June, in essence nine (9) weeks before the end of the season. It is simply amazing and defies belief, that as you all now, Jason has moved to MacArthur, who like other A-League Clubs have a youth team playing in the NPL 1 Competition. One would think, that an A-League Club would source an injury replacement from within the ranks of their very own youth league team. What is the point of the A-League Clubs bothering to have a youth league team, and what is even more fascinating, is why would an emerging young talent bother wasting their time playing in a youth team within the A-League set up. The 3 or 4 strikers within the MacArthur youth teams, it is astonishing that they have not simply packed their bags and walked away from the Club, after being embarrassed by their very own Club. Because the purpose of they’re being there, and playing at that Club, is so that they get the opportunity to move into the A-League squad. And, then when the opportunity arises for MacArthur to elevate one of their youth players into their first team squad, but as such, they have been ignored, they have been discarded. So, again I repeat, and I ask these youth players, why do they bother remaining in such a set up. Moving forward with this message, at the time of writing, the Club has submitted our Expression of Interest on Friday for the National Second Division. We have also commenced preparations for our annual Festival of Football v Sydney Olympic and this year we are the host Club. More exciting details to follow in coming weeks. Next year will be the Club’s 70th Birthday Anniversary and major event are currently in the planning stages. To highlight and to commence the festivities and in our lead up to our 70th Birthday celebrations, in our last match of the season this year, our first grade Men and Women’s squads will be playing in the identical playing strip that was used by the Club in 1954. In closing, thank you to our supporters in attendance today, and also today’s Ball Boys – U14s Youth Boys for being so kind to help and ensure that the Club complies with proper match day regulations. Their commitment and attendance are more appreciated than they know. Once again, kind thanks to all our Season Pass Holders. Haha this is the first I’m seeing this. Was that on APIAs social media? Or was it an email to their members? Reads very much like the ramblings of Tony Raciti, who as I noted in the NPL thread, speaks very much from the heart and not so much from the head haha. He sure is a character That's definitely Tony. Heh. Tony has a rhetorical bent because he knows as well as the rest of us do that Macarthur's "youth" side the Northbridge Bulls or whatever they are this week are a fucking joke.
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+x+x+x EOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast 3. Peninsula Power 4. Sydney Olympic 5. Brisbane Olympic 6. Rockdale Illinden 7. Preston Lions 8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt 9. Brisbane City 10. Canberra Croatia Haha love that. One of the more humorous announcements thus far. Btw Heidelberg were another club that were in dire straits a few years ago, relegated, couldn’t pay their players at one point, under 18 forfeiting games due to lack of players etc but they’ve pulled it back are now looking like one of the stronger clubs at npl level, and likely one of the strongest bids to get back onto the national stage via the NSD. Good on em At one point you say?? That is downplaying it. There is a long track record of this from NSL day through to VPL. They were well known for not paying players in Vic football circles. Promising at start of season, and not delivering by halfway. Even mention of some players getting paid before they played to sign there. Good to see they have finally got their act together.
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+x EOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast 3. Peninsula Power 4. Sydney Olympic 5. Brisbane Olympic 6. Rockdale Illinden 7. Preston Lions 8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt 9. Brisbane City 10. Canberra Croatia 11. Heidelberg United 12. Adelaide City
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Hahahahaha no, I know ita ll a bit of a fizzle I just got a little carried away because I like Atalanta :)
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+xHahahahaha no, I know ita ll a bit of a fizzle I just got a little carried away because I like Atalanta :) When is Sth Melb announcing their intention Mono?
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+x+xHahahahaha no, I know ita ll a bit of a fizzle I just got a little carried away because I like Atalanta :) When is Sth Melb announcing their intention Mono? Hahahahah tell me about it mate???? Farkin typical Greeks, always late. :)
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+x+x+xGlenardo, what was this all about. I have been told it was deleted later. President’s Message A warm welcome to all our Sponsors, Members and Supporters, who I have no doubt would have turned up in big numbers for today’s vitally important clash v Marconi Stallions. Obviously, it has been a great start to the Season, but caution must prevail, as this is the longest season ever, with 25 matches remaining. With such a long season, squad depth and numbers are vitally important, and in this instance I note the loss of Jason Romero, which is disappointing, but I wish him all the very best moving forward. What is absolutely amazing, at this stage, but yet to be officially confirmed we are unable to replace Jason, until the window opens in June, in essence nine (9) weeks before the end of the season. It is simply amazing and defies belief, that as you all now, Jason has moved to MacArthur, who like other A-League Clubs have a youth team playing in the NPL 1 Competition. One would think, that an A-League Club would source an injury replacement from within the ranks of their very own youth league team. What is the point of the A-League Clubs bothering to have a youth league team, and what is even more fascinating, is why would an emerging young talent bother wasting their time playing in a youth team within the A-League set up. The 3 or 4 strikers within the MacArthur youth teams, it is astonishing that they have not simply packed their bags and walked away from the Club, after being embarrassed by their very own Club. Because the purpose of they’re being there, and playing at that Club, is so that they get the opportunity to move into the A-League squad. And, then when the opportunity arises for MacArthur to elevate one of their youth players into their first team squad, but as such, they have been ignored, they have been discarded. So, again I repeat, and I ask these youth players, why do they bother remaining in such a set up. Moving forward with this message, at the time of writing, the Club has submitted our Expression of Interest on Friday for the National Second Division. We have also commenced preparations for our annual Festival of Football v Sydney Olympic and this year we are the host Club. More exciting details to follow in coming weeks. Next year will be the Club’s 70th Birthday Anniversary and major event are currently in the planning stages. To highlight and to commence the festivities and in our lead up to our 70th Birthday celebrations, in our last match of the season this year, our first grade Men and Women’s squads will be playing in the identical playing strip that was used by the Club in 1954. In closing, thank you to our supporters in attendance today, and also today’s Ball Boys – U14s Youth Boys for being so kind to help and ensure that the Club complies with proper match day regulations. Their commitment and attendance are more appreciated than they know. Once again, kind thanks to all our Season Pass Holders. Haha this is the first I’m seeing this. Was that on APIAs social media? Or was it an email to their members? Reads very much like the ramblings of Tony Raciti, who as I noted in the NPL thread, speaks very much from the heart and not so much from the head haha. He sure is a character That's definitely Tony. Heh. Tony has a rhetorical bent because he knows as well as the rest of us do that Macarthur's "youth" side the Northbridge Bulls or whatever they are this week are a fucking joke. Responding to Glenardo as well, yes TR is the unique heart on his sleeve type of guy, you name it he has quoted many polarising comments but yer you can forgive him due to his devoted APIA passion through many many hard times......its a credit the place kept going during some very dark times Thankfully pretty good now. Maybe someone else would have portrayed the more professional approach but without types like he where would some Clubs be. His gripe that many agree with is just this quoted long ago........ "that the current system is flawed. We appreciate we're a feeder club, but we have three contracted players who are trialling with A-League clubs in the middle of our season. If we stop them trialling, we are perceived as being obstructive", Raciti says. FORZA APIA - tbh I'm supporting all Clubs pitching for the NST and make the FPT stages and beyound, VIVA heartland football clubs that get to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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+x+x+xHahahahaha no, I know ita ll a bit of a fizzle I just got a little carried away because I like Atalanta :) When is Sth Melb announcing their intention Mono? Hahahahah tell me about it mate???? Farkin typical Greeks, always late. :) and not suprised it will come for sure but I'm wondering re SU58.
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