If we want an inclusive national league the door should be open for all clubs just like the nsl days, so yes with the current hal setup being a closed shop designed to keep certain clubs out that is a more racist setup.

Once again for the noisy kids at the back who won't (or can't) listen... The only people who refer to these clubs as 'ethnic only' are those who don't like them. There is no exclusion. I feel extremely strongly about this because I am a non-'ethnic' who supports one of these supposedly 'ethnic only' clubs and I've never had so much as a raised eyebrow in my direction at any match in the NSL or VPL.

Yes, the destructive, crushing segregation where race isn't part of the club or it's identity at all.

DAMN YUO LOWY YOU RACIST!

Canadians, nor New Zealanders seem to have a problem embracing ethnic Club, only your red neck type do, aka, majority of A-league supporters.

oops.

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just a bunch of whiney bitches cause they cant have there ethnic only clubs in the A league.

They talk about what there clubs have done for football in australia yet demographically if they had the format clubs have now it would of been alot more successful and there clubs would still be in the top level.but no they choose to alienate people and go for ethnicitys=racist=unaustralian.

and whys it racist? because its disrespectful to ALL people living in australia because they cant/wouldnt want to go to a football match where they feel alienated and most importantly this is australia.

not crotia or greece or italy etc.

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I find it funny that the first opportunity you got to call me racist you did it lol.you think unaustralian is racist because i said its unaustralian to have ethnic only clubs lol?.i find it funny your a little cry baby and a drama queen.

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+1 =d>

for me the nsl trully represented our country, we had a mix of australian clubs formed by hard working immigrants mixed in with your new clubs as well, every type of club in an inclusive national league setup, if these clubs were such racists they would have done everything possible to ensure that clubs like perth glory never got a look in, if we are being brutally honest its a more racist setup today.

Mmmm:-k

Edited by joffa: 15/8/2010 02:37:06 AM

the only person who seems to be racist is you mate

Would love it if you could explain how we are (a) racist, (b) trying to destroy the game.

Just one shred of evidence to support either argument, please. Actually, sod the evidence, just give me a logical theory.

it was the way forward till Lowy's beloved Hakoah went broke and left the NSL.

What a crying shame that these small-time racist clubs are still trying to destroy the game in this country. You'd think they'd have learned that that is not the way forward.

please post a-league violence videos so we can pass them all over the a-league

If I was brought up supporting them like I was with United than probably wouldn't have a problem with it. But I don't think I could pick it up once I'm
on my teens.

I dont think the clubs themselves are racist, and by saying waht I am gonna say next, I am not calling you one, but...... Would you support a Serbian club??
A serious question.

I find it funny that going by Glory_recruits views on what's racist, the man most people praise for starting the A-League, Frank Lowy, is a racist than :lol:

No, his point was that these clubs are racist and only for ethnics and that they exclude players and fans of other nationalities when it's just not true. He's an idiot who just throws about claims of racism and that these clubs should not be allowed to play on Australia.

Again, missing the point. It is not about clubs excluding players and fans, it is the alienation felt by fans not belonging to that ethnic culture.

How about you prove any of these clubs are ethnic only before you go on another hollow rant about how they shouldn't be allowed in Australia. How about you prove that these clubs turn away people that aren't of a certain ethnicity, prove that they turn away players that aren't of a certain ethnicity and when you can do that go on all the rants you want.

do i have to start pulling out youtube videos and newspaper links to violence in the A-league, i really can't be bothered, but I will do it, lol:-$



And this is exactly why you're a no body in football. Clubs like Bankstown Lions and Bonnyrigg White Eagles, have ALWAYS been in the State League, and didn't even participate in the NSL, and you expect them to be thrown out cause you're a racist fuck?



Precisely correct, the violence is not much different as well. Especially in the last 10 years of the NSL, it what probably even better then what it is now.



And even so, Olympic changed it's Club name, even before it became (racially) compulsory.



And how exactly does it make it better if 20-30 people start chanting in English, rather then in Cro/Greek? How does it improve Australian football? I can think of MANY more ways that Australian football can improved, like better funding for grass root football, clinics, overhauls of State League hierarchy, BUT NO! THE ANSWER TO IMPROVE AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL, IS TO GET 20 CROATS IN MELBOURNE, 20 CROATS IN SYDNEY, AND 20 GREEKS IN SYDNEY TO CHANT IN ENGLISH :oops: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) you are THE biggest moron I have ever come across in a forum.



maybe some of these Clubs are content with where they are. Bonnyrigg had a chance to join the NSL, and would have been one of the biggest Clubs in it, but declined to do so. So i really dont see what your point is?



So you expect a Club to throw away of 50 years of History and Culture to meet your racist demands? Once again, this is why you are a no body in Australian football.



And when you also walk in the Bonnyrigg Sports Club, directly to the left is a Chinese restautant ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) LOL!

Get over it, they can chant Sydney Croatia, and we can chant Pan-Ellinio - it is the old name to our Clubs, football Clubs all over Europe in there chants often use previous names of the Club, and I can only see this being an issue for you if you're a racist, which I would have MORE respect to you, if you just openly admitted you're a racist.



I very much highly doubt that people were staring at you as you walked in :roll: [/quote]

Racist fuck?having a ethnic only club in another country is racist to all its inhabitants you fucking idiot:)

And the simple answer to your simple question is...... Why should he have to??

Coming from the fucktard who continually posts racist propoganda on both this forum and his facebook page. If only they'd legalize involuntary euthanasia, you'd be a prime candidate.

Amazing how the supporters of these mono-ethnic clubs feel the need to aggressively defend their borders.

Hmmmmm.....

Hey moron 2 of our last 3 captains are players with Turkish backgrounds. Their families are often seen in the crowd. Tansel Baser and our current captain Ramazan Tavsancioglu are easily 2 of the most popular players to have ever pulled on a South shirt.
I can't think of any player from any type of 'nationality or background' that hasn't played for South over the years.
Couldn't give a stuff who wants to be a member, everyone's cash is welcome.

You're the ignorant moron with a problem. Full of fear, paranoia, beleiving all the ethnic violence/tension bullshit that is used by todays new order to discredit the traditional clubs in order to make their 'investments' and role in the game somewhat more appealing.

I take it you didn't read my post you ignoramus!

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You Joffa are bad for the game, you are a racist pig, who comes on here and continues to put shit on the mother clubs of australian football, you are a disgrace to the game.

There is more violence in the a-league then the NSL had