Ch 10 hatchet piece.

Not confirmation

Give it a few years and most of you will be bored of this shiny object too.
No doubt a bunch of hipster types are going to start going to the organic market garden football for a while then they will move on to baseball or something.

I think it's fantastic btw and have been supportive of this and P/R for a looong time but the giddiness of some of you at this while death riding of the a-league is just lame and a symbol of what's always been wrong with football in this country.

Don;t have facebook what's the gist?

just sensationalist journalism

I think thats whats been wrong in this country for years and more so recent times.
Is not having a legit 2nd teir like the NST set up/standards and hopefully a good broadcast partner.
Sure never count your chickens till they've hatched but I don't think a whole heap of supporters will be the hipster types/neutrals who come and go.
Sure welcome to them some will be there for the honeymoon period and depending what the product delivers but they'll be gone but most will be the regular NPL/YL devotees/relos/friends and some who gave it away way back.
Why would the main current supporter base who have had less for so long get bored of the new environment with more bells and whistles and a Pro environment.
That don't make sense. 

Agree with you for once... Thats why the FA has requested a 5k fee AND a 25k bond/assurance from clubs submitting a response to EOI..... 

HAhahahahahahahahaha  And so the wheel turns my friend :P.. hahahahaha this made my day. 

I always thought the third division should be separated by ethnicity.... Croatian clubs, Italian Clubs, Greek Clubs etc, Turkish clubs, Albanian Clubs etc etc ... hahahahahahah 

Pro/rel into NSD should be one up one down according to the origin of your parents. hahahahah God that would make me laugh.

I do think that with Australia's massive size we eventually need 3 divisions to make a full pyramid with p and r work

That's my point (which I think/hope you did get- the irony of it all).

You got guys here that used to go to all games of an a-league team who now don't bother (because of administrative decisions) getting all frothy over who they are going to go support now when "hopefully" the a-league dies..

They are no different to all who have come before.

The only truly good outcome of all of this is eventual integration with the a-league teams not hoping for the collapse of one or the other

Looks like I was correct....

The old wogs and die-hards who hung around for the last 18 years staying loyal to one team are clearly not who I am talking about.

As Mono says, the worm (sic) has turned

Yeah man, I got ya... thus my comment on "the wheel turning" South lost a huge chunk of our supporters in 2004. Quite a few went to Victory but another large chunk (like myself at the time) just stopped going anywhere..... 

Anecdotally a lot of the current Aleague fans who, as you say, are frothing at coming back to the old NSL clubs have ties to those clubs either themselves or through their friends and family.... It is obviously one of the reason whey the APL owners fear this move so much... (Apparently Danny Trashcan is meeting with pollies in ACT today to talk about expansion of the Aleague and we saw the previous attempt to resurrect the Youth league despite them canning it as too expensive just a short while ago).
Victory, Sydney and Adelaide may not be affected by it that much in the grand scheme of things but I bet franchises like Melbourne City, WSW and Brisbane would be at least mildly worried about who will be turning up to their matches next year?

Despite all my APL, franchise bashing, I hope (purely for the sake of all of their fans) that your clubs survive this and DO end up joining the rest of us..... With a true pyramid ALL the APL clubs can slot back into football seamlessly through their NPL squads.. Next year for example Melbourne City and WU can play NPL 2 and Victory NPL 3, with their resources it wont be long before they earn promotion (rightly) into the top tier...... And if they do, you won't hear a peep from me.... unless it's to complain about the usual football on field shitthousery of course :).....  Bring it on.

Ha ha how magnanimous of you!

I knew youd like that one :P

Just having fun thinking here.....but why not just have a super league in the first season of 1st and 2nd division teams.

20 teams over 40 weeks that will then divide the teams into two groups of 10 for next season 

Imagine the drama would make for one intense year of football!!!!!!

25k is only for the 2nd phase shortlisted clubs though. Clubs at the EOI phase only need to pay the 5k.

Oh, thanks I didnt realise..... still 5k just to submit an EOI (Im guessing to pay for the evaluation process?) , on top of some clubs paying 5-10K to fund the AAFC financial report..... at least a few are serious about the process is my take on it.

Based on what? EOI application cut-off is March 3rd. Today is the 22nd Feb. Just because no WA club has announced they have applied, doesn't mean that none have or none will. 

That would be fricken amazing....... But again the drama lies in which 10 x clubs get in.... I must admit I am not a fan of any NST club just being an inaugural club just on fans, fiance and history. (yes yes I known MY club will get in bit beleive it or not I do want a fair system once and for all) I would have preferred some sort of performance base criteria as well.... Maybe what you suggest can happen between all the the clubs shortlisted for NST .... play one season between the 20-30 or so who apply and the top 15 are the NST, the bottom half are the new third division.....  what a dream that would be :)

When we knew we were moving to Brisbane we bought a Brisbane Roar membership whilst living 400 odd kms away. We went to Suncorp pretty much every game for years. Subsequent to the bust up with the Lowy's and their shenanigans the bad taste in my mounth has just got worse. The whole play by my rules (Lowy Senior) or not has alienated a lot of people, not just me. That has continued under the current ownership model.  We still went to games, as Brisbane Roar were our team, though less frequently.

We have taken friends and family to games, even out to Redcliffe. It is way too far though for most Brisbane people to go to Redcliffe. However, the disdain that the current owners of the A League continue to show to the average supporter has been the death knell of my support for Brisbane Roar as a regular attendee at their games. I feel that I don't want to pay someone who doesn't value my dollars or support. I am quite conflicted in this, as they are still my team. I still follow their progress, or lack thereof, as I want football in Australia to survive, and in fact thrive. I still have a Paramount plus membership/subscription.

Which gets me to my comment. In the beginning I overlooked the history and baggage that Lowy Senior bought with him to the A League as I was excited by the prospect of what could happen in a new professional football competition in Australia. The New Football.Old Soccer divide that was supposedly overcome by the A League has actually got worse over time, and the current owners of the APL are not doing anything to bring the two together. There is a hint that they may have woken up to what they are missing in the missives about recreating the NYL adding new teams etc which seem to be a reaction to the hype created by the NST. I am not hopeful. Hence I believe that the A League will not be viable in its current form post the end of the Channel 10/Paramount deal and my expression of the A League being in its death throes. It will be fascinating to see whether they have interest in these new teams and how much the licences cost. And, as a corollary to that, whether their is renewed interest in the A League itself.

SO this leads me to the excitement of the NST. I am of the firm belief that the FA has a golden opportunity to not only create a NST, but also sew the seeds of a next tier down in the process they are following. If the EOI produces sufficient interest, the teams not selected could be invited to start the Third Tier in the following season. I guess I am dreaming, but this is the opportunity we have in front of us. Start the NST with 10 or 12 teams. Create the Third Tier the following year with up to 16 teams. Promote 2 a year for the first two seasons with the NPL Champions and runners up promoted to the Third Tier. After 4 years we would have two divisions of 16 teams and we would have promotion and relegation though the pyramid.

Yes, I like to dream, but that is the reason for the dream. Sorry for the length of the reply. Cheers.

Yeah the doc says the fee is to cover administrative costs. Understandable. If it was free, they would geta bunch of rubbish applications that would just waste time.
The 25k bond would be to quickly filter out any questionable applications. If they can't stump up 25k for a bond, they definitely can't afford to run a pro team and staff.

Great post. Echoes a fair bit of my thinking. I too was a rusted on Roar fan but no more for various reasons including some that you put up here. 

We're not talking about Aleague expansion here mate :P WU have already been given their license, I dont thin they will bother applying for NST. hahahahahahaahahahahah

FFS

There is no national 3rd tier being discussed/mentioned/proposed by anyone apart from the la-la's in this thread.

Indeed. Bayswater have not said anything yet - and Perth SC might see how it all goes and apply at the next intake.

Does anyone here understand the WA football landscape???
There will be no WA team in this comp (if it gets up)
End of. 

Maybe just the dreamer from Freo that applied for Aleague licence claiming they had Juve connections. 

If they're concerned on potentially losing $2,500 then they should not bother. NST not for tin pots although I'm sure some would like it to be run as such.

I reckon discussion of a nsd started here well over a decade ago

I'll admit that a WA club is far from certain. They definitely aren't as strong as some of the other bids will be. It will probably depend on how national the FA want the NST to be. If they want a WA club and the individual bids aren't quite strong enough they may push for a merger. Not saying that's a great idea, just thinking about how it could happen.