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+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. BINGO !
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights !
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. It's definitely going to be interesting to see which clubs grow or drop with the re-shuffle. With 10-16 clubs moving into the NST, it means there are also 10-16 clubs that automatically get promoted into their respective top-level NPL. Then there will be opportunities for the clubs that may have been middle-of-the-pack NPL clubs to become top-of-the-pack NPL clubs. If the NST is done well and achieves the popularity it deserves, I reckon the NPL is about to become super competitive.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. It's definitely going to be interesting to see which clubs grow or drop with the re-shuffle. With 10-16 clubs moving into the NST, it means there are also 10-16 clubs that automatically get promoted into their respective top-level NPL. Then there will be opportunities for the clubs that may have been middle-of-the-pack NPL clubs to become top-of-the-pack NPL clubs. If the NST is done well and achieves the popularity it deserves, I reckon the NPL is about to become super competitive. ABSOLUTELY.... This league hasnt even laucnhed yet and there is a massive buzz in clubland... Can only be a good thing. If people just suspoend their "effnik bad" biase for 30 seconds and get down to a local club they might see for themselves what this could mean to us ALL. Two tiny examples. Oakleigh getting much needed facilities upgrade: https://www.monash.vic.gov.au/About-Us/News/Design-work-underway-for-redevelopment-of-Jack-Edwards-ReserveDandy City are now doing behind the scenes media: https://twitter.com/DandyCitySC/status/1630745905069686789?cxt=HHwWioDQ6dawyaEtAAAA
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+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game. This one will blow your mind Paulie .......... I am hearing that 2 x clubs in South Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne, both amature league and very tightly linked to the South Sudanese Community are in "talks" to combine and speak to a local council about facilities...... With their population and talent watch out for some new faces in State league/ NPL in the coming years. The REAL multicultural Australian Football is about to show you what it can do ......
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game. This one will blow your mind Paulie .......... I am hearing that 2 x clubs in South Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne, both amature league and very tightly linked to the South Sudanese Community are in "talks" to combine and speak to a local council about facilities...... With their population and talent watch out for some new faces in State league/ NPL in the coming years. The REAL multicultural Australian Football is about to show you what it can do ...... What you're hearing is in one ear and out the other Machin Gun Con. If you're going to have a league full of mono ethnic clubs, then that's much better than a 3 horse race, initially at least. Was proven much fairer in the State Leagues before the NSL. But it's NEVER going to happen, as it won't be considered as the 'most suitable' for the NST.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game. couldn't care less what the nationalities are, then talks about nothing but nationalities
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. Re LFC, I think “character” is the term you’re searching for with regards to the grounds haha. I’m fairly sure I saw someone not long ago that t club marconi plans on redeveloping the two training/junior pitches behind the main grandstand into synthetic pitches. the surface on the main pitch is usually fairly high quality. I noticed they recently gave a lick of paint to terracing one the north end of the ground. In my personal opinion that’s all the stadium really needs, a little bit of a clean up here and there which I dare say will likely become a higher priority if it’s hosting weekly national league fixtures once again. The social club itself I think it’s no secret that it’s being updated and expanded constantly, they recently did a refurb and im pretty sure they’re just about to embark on another upgrade and expansion. (Think veneto club on steroids for those in Victoria). and for those interstate, the physical structure of the stadium has reverted back to how it was in the 90s. the temporary stand which was erected (in the early 00s?) on the eastern wing was no longer needed post nsl and was removed. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Oakleigh are no south Melbourne and they never will be. Likewise Bulleen are no Marconi and they never will be ;) sometimes there’s no substitute for history and we all know that’s something traditional soccer clubs in this country draw heavily on for their strength. Good Italian sausage at the veneto club though the last time i was there 10 Years ago haha
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
Fremantle City... :laugh: They just used this as a ploy to poach junior NPL players from other clubs in WA. " Come play for Fremantle, your son will be playing for us in the A-League in a few years. See, we even have a website saying so!". Sadly, there were parents who fell for it. I'm sure there are clubs doing the same thing now for the NST. Not just for juniors but also for their current NPL teams. "Join us this season for the NPL and you'll be playing in the second division next year" Wouldn't surprise me....... How do you think Aleague academies lure their players btw? or more accurately the parents of their players? And if they're the parents of kids at CCM or Adelaide United they made the right choice Adelaide dont have an academy. Along with Brisbane now. No need to suck in the parents.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game. couldn't care less what the nationalities are, then talks about nothing but nationalities Sorry it bothers you. Correct though, couldn't less what they are.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. Re LFC, I think “character” is the term you’re searching for with regards to the grounds haha. I’m fairly sure I saw someone not long ago that t club marconi plans on redeveloping the two training/junior pitches behind the main grandstand into synthetic pitches. the surface on the main pitch is usually fairly high quality. I noticed they recently gave a lick of paint to terracing one the north end of the ground. In my personal opinion that’s all the stadium really needs, a little bit of a clean up here and there which I dare say will likely become a higher priority if it’s hosting weekly national league fixtures once again. The social club itself I think it’s no secret that it’s being updated and expanded constantly, they recently did a refurb and im pretty sure they’re just about to embark on another upgrade and expansion. (Think veneto club on steroids for those in Victoria). and for those interstate, the physical structure of the stadium has reverted back to how it was in the 90s. the temporary stand which was erected (in the early 00s?) on the eastern wing was no longer needed post nsl and was removed. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Oakleigh are no south Melbourne and they never will be. Likewise Bulleen are no Marconi and they never will be ;) sometimes there’s no substitute for history and we all know that’s something traditional soccer clubs in this country draw heavily on for their strength. Good Italian sausage at the veneto club though the last time i was there 10 Years ago haha mate you got that spot on "character" hehe touche. Agreed a good lick of pittura brings it back to caring life - glad to hear its moving ahead for it was looking neglected. The main pitch when the son played I was surprised it wasn't that good, I'll have to ask him how long ago that was matter of interest. The NST will make all the Clubs that get accepted jump in ground presentation - how damn good that will be, APIA lol will that major project get the green light. Good to hear of the other upgrades. I'm no huge fan of syn mind you but its all round use suits our needs, having grown up obviously playing on turf most of my playing days when I play on syn the passing is sensational naturally but the bloody ball keeps running away from you at times lol and damn, I used to love slide tackles, forget it I'm not being paid haha Yep can't beat Clubs with "history" building from ground up and thats the love of it all.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Isn't there an Italian club in Whittlesea or thereabouts with its own ground (has a small stadium if I recall correct)? A strong FA criteria, surprised they are not mentioned. Poor ol' Juventus though, like nomads - never had their own ground.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah 😂 Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brunswick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Not their real name but just their former junior base Have they split and gone on their own? Leftie infested? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Isn't there an Italian club in Whittlesea or thereabouts with its own ground (has a small stadium if I recall correct)? A strong FA criteria, surprised they are not mentioned. Poor ol' Juventus though, like nomads - never had their own ground. Whittlesea ranges, I think they’re somewhat affiliated with what used to be thomastown. They also used to be part of the “juventus” merger. At one point the current “Brunswick juventus” group were known as “whittlesea zebras” and played out of Epping stadium in outer northern Melbourne. Currently Whittlesea ranges still play there, but it’s not owned by the club, I think it’s a public facility, Carlton played there at one point, a league youth games have been played there etc. i have it on very good authority that at one point Brunswick juventus had the opportunity to buy land in northcote to build a boutique stadium of their own, plans were even drawn up and presented to the board. But they decided against it, because they didn’t want to lower themselves to leaving Olympic park and playing “out in the sticks”. They were also offered a position in the nsl when it was first founded but they declined because they didn’t think much of the plans. Those two decisions right there alone could have massively changed the course of history for the club and are a window into the clubs mismanagement
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. Bulleen zebras were the merger between the “juventus” group and Bulleen veneto. In my opinion that was the last opportunity to salvage something out of the dumpster fire that is Italian soccer clubs in Melbourne. It could have been a somewhat decent club with the connection many Melbourne Italians had to the black and white stripes and playing out of the Veneto club. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties, and they both went their separate ways. I think box hill inter were just subsumed into this entity at senior level, there continued to be a junior club for a couple of years but but that folded soon after.
I know many Italians in Melbourne who are very interested in soccer, regularly attend npl matches, a league matches etc and yet feel no affiliation with any Italian clubs due to the above. The through line of history had been broken. I even know multiple people who played for Brunswick juventus in their glory days pre nsl and feel very little connection to the present day clubs. Sad.
I do get the feeling though that all this is part of the reason for Melbourne Victorys early success though. I know a lot of Melbourne Italians who jumped on them early days because they felt like they had no other club to support
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. Bulleen zebras were the merger between the “juventus” group and Bulleen veneto. In my opinion that was the last opportunity to salvage something out of the dumpster fire that is Italian soccer clubs in Melbourne. It could have been a somewhat decent club with the connection many Melbourne Italians had to the black and white stripes and playing out of the Veneto club. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties, and they both went their separate ways. I think box hill inter were just subsumed into this entity at senior level, there continued to be a junior club for a couple of years but but that folded soon after. There could be a 4 part documentary series on the Vic Italian clubs over the last 5 decades. And we still may not understand exactly what happened.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Isn't there an Italian club in Whittlesea or thereabouts with its own ground (has a small stadium if I recall correct)? A strong FA criteria, surprised they are not mentioned. Poor ol' Juventus though, like nomads - never had their own ground. Whittlesea ranges, I think they’re somewhat affiliated with what used to be thomastown. They also used to be part of the “juventus” merger. At one point the current “Brunswick juventus” group were known as “whittlesea zebras” and played out of Epping stadium in outer northern Melbourne. Currently Whittlesea ranges still play there, but it’s not owned by the club, I think it’s a public facility, Carlton played there at one point, a league youth games have been played there etc. i have it on very good authority that at one point Brunswick juventus had the opportunity to buy land in northcote to build a boutique stadium of their own, plans were even drawn up and presented to the board. But they decided against it, because they didn’t want to lower themselves to leaving Olympic park and playing “out in the sticks”. They were also offered a position in the nsl when it was first founded but they declined because they didn’t think much of the plans. Those two decisions right there alone could have massively changed the course of history for the club and are a window into the clubs mismanagement Remember that (in bald) well. To be fair, not many Victorian clubs wanted to venture into the NSL. It took Mooroolbark to break the ice. Now I wonder what happened to that ground?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game. couldn't care less what the nationalities are, then talks about nothing but nationalities :)
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. I couldn't care less what nationality clubs have association with. I just reckon the FA will walk that path and partially base their decision on some form of quotas. It should be whichever clubs can demonstrate they are most suitable. I couldn't care less either what nationalities they are, but going back to the future with 3 of the same nationalities in every city does not inspire the 200 others because they'll know it will end up like the NSL closed shop. How does that broaden the appeal? I agree and think the FA will seriously look at what is 'most suitable' for the best interest of the game. This one will blow your mind Paulie .......... I am hearing that 2 x clubs in South Eastern Suburbs of Melbourne, both amature league and very tightly linked to the South Sudanese Community are in "talks" to combine and speak to a local council about facilities...... With their population and talent watch out for some new faces in State league/ NPL in the coming years. The REAL multicultural Australian Football is about to show you what it can do ...... What you're hearing is in one ear and out the other Machin Gun Con. If you're going to have a league full of mono ethnic clubs, then that's much better than a 3 horse race, initially at least. Was proven much fairer in the State Leagues before the NSL. But it's NEVER going to happen, as it won't be considered as the 'most suitable' for the NST. I guess well have to wait and see how many "Northern Spirit's" enter the comp Paulie..... you might be disappointed Im afraid.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. Bulleen zebras were the merger between the “juventus” group and Bulleen veneto. In my opinion that was the last opportunity to salvage something out of the dumpster fire that is Italian soccer clubs in Melbourne. It could have been a somewhat decent club with the connection many Melbourne Italians had to the black and white stripes and playing out of the Veneto club. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties, and they both went their separate ways. I think box hill inter were just subsumed into this entity at senior level, there continued to be a junior club for a couple of years but but that folded soon after.
I know many Italians in Melbourne who are very interested in soccer, regularly attend npl matches, a league matches etc and yet feel no affiliation with any Italian clubs due to the above. The through line of history had been broken. I even know multiple people who played for Brunswick juventus in their glory days pre nsl and feel very little connection to the present day clubs. Sad.
I do get the feeling though that all this is part of the reason for Melbourne Victorys early success though. I know a lot of Melbourne Italians who jumped on them early days because they felt like they had no other club to support
I know alot of the Italian boys jumped on Carlton SC back in the day. Also, If Im not mistaken Clayton Inter, at one stage in the 90s or early 00s was part of that weird Juventus family tree as was a club out at Caulfield somewhere... I think???
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. Re LFC, I think “character” is the term you’re searching for with regards to the grounds haha. I’m fairly sure I saw someone not long ago that t club marconi plans on redeveloping the two training/junior pitches behind the main grandstand into synthetic pitches. the surface on the main pitch is usually fairly high quality. I noticed they recently gave a lick of paint to terracing one the north end of the ground. In my personal opinion that’s all the stadium really needs, a little bit of a clean up here and there which I dare say will likely become a higher priority if it’s hosting weekly national league fixtures once again. The social club itself I think it’s no secret that it’s being updated and expanded constantly, they recently did a refurb and im pretty sure they’re just about to embark on another upgrade and expansion. (Think veneto club on steroids for those in Victoria). and for those interstate, the physical structure of the stadium has reverted back to how it was in the 90s. the temporary stand which was erected (in the early 00s?) on the eastern wing was no longer needed post nsl and was removed. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Oakleigh are no south Melbourne and they never will be. Likewise Bulleen are no Marconi and they never will be ;) sometimes there’s no substitute for history and we all know that’s something traditional soccer clubs in this country draw heavily on for their strength. Good Italian sausage at the veneto club though the last time i was there 10 Years ago haha Yeah I get you mate and agree. The rise in stature of clubs like Oakleigh, Port Melbourne, Bentleigh Greens etc in Victoria was due to the demise of South and the 18 years of banishment from national competition. South fans live all over Melbourne (and interstate) so when the appeal of national football was taken away many former supporters just went back to their suburban clubs... . Its been too long, to much water under the bridge. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. Whilst South and Heideleberg will "get back" alot of their former fans from these smaller (no disrespect meant, except to Choakleigh) clubs if we are the only two clubs initially in the NST, if the other clubs show a little ambition they have a much larger platform to grow from than in the past and hopefully they can.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If Lions (the biggest and best club in Qld) applies for the NST it will be them plus most likely Power - IMO If Lions don't apply then that tells us they looks at the economics of it project, and thought this is not gonna work? Considering they started Roar in the A-league, they'll know a thing or two how these "professional leagues" can go Yep. Food for thought. It's not just Lions either that may be making those considerations (I added another paragraph to my post above that crossed with your one here in relation to this) +x+x+xArguably the best 3 QLD clubs not interested? A worry for the NST. Not in the NPL era they aren't, best 4 clubs in the NPL Qld (particularly when the league opened up) have been Power, Lions, Olympic and GC Knights and at least 3 of those have put in an EOI and I wouldn't be surprised if Lions did put in an EOI. Strikers are an FQPL1 team as are Fire with their best days being pre NPL and City are an up and down side who look like they will have a good year but were in FQPL1 2 years ago. I would expect 2 Qld sides to make the NSD and the smart money would be on Power and GC Knights, biggest hurdle they would have is stadiums, Power can overcome that by playing out of Dolphin Oval, I'm not sure where Knights could play to overcome the shortcomings of their home. If memory serves me correctly, the last 3 Qld clubs that looked to applying for the A-League were Lions, Brisbane City and Strikers. They must have had the confidence, credentials and resources then, not to mention the history - but for some reason have not put up their hand (so far) despite a less demanding NST. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/25/fifteen-a-league-expansion-bids-confirmed-on-deadline-dayNo strikers or lions on this list. The Freo and West Adelaide bids still make me laugh. The 15 bids ACT: Canberra New South Wales: South-West Sydney (Liverpool), Southern Expansion (Sutherland-St George Illawarra), Wollongong Wolves, Macarthur (Campbelltown) Queensland: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United, Western Pride/Ipswich South Australia: West Adelaide Tasmania: State-wide Victoria: Team 11 (South-East Melbourne), South Melbourne, Western Melbourne, Belgravia Leisure Western Australia: Fremantle City
Fremantle City... :laugh: They just used this as a ploy to poach junior NPL players from other clubs in WA. " Come play for Fremantle, your son will be playing for us in the A-League in a few years. See, we even have a website saying so!". Sadly, there were parents who fell for it. I'm sure there are clubs doing the same thing now for the NST. Not just for juniors but also for their current NPL teams. "Join us this season for the NPL and you'll be playing in the second division next year" Wouldn't surprise me....... How do you think Aleague academies lure their players btw? or more accurately the parents of their players? And if they're the parents of kids at CCM or Adelaide United they made the right choice Adelaide dont have an academy. Along with Brisbane now. No need to suck in the parents. Sure, all I meant was we can/do coax the best young players to our NPL team with a promise of bigger things to come as per your comment: "Join us this season for the NPL and you'll be playing in the second division next year"
but for United players that's actually demonstrably true
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties And they were Italian you say? Crazy
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties And they were Italian you say? Crazy Haha I know, hard to fathom. Well like said, great to see that the NSW and SA Italian clubs ( Marconi, APIA and adelaide city) have survived and are looking like strong candidates to get back on the national stage where they belong in the NSD
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xso SU58 have no chance in hell in being accepted because of the australia cup 22 final being still fresh in the mind Canberra deakin and Melbourne Knights won't be accepted for the Ustase loving supporters GCKnights need to be clean AF to be in as well (or merge with GC United) It does not look good for the picnic tableclothers as solo cubs Your comment itself is racist to all croatians as your painting everyone and every club in the same brush. I will guarantee you that 1 if not 2 croatian clubs will be accepted into the NSD. Exactly. Melbourne Knights will most likely be one of the stronger bids and it would be difficult to justify not letting them in if they tick all of the required boxes. That being said, if the FA are trying to decide between SU58 and another club, and they both have a similar spec'd application, I reckon the fan issues at the Australia Cup final may come into play. I also reckon the FA will actively limit the number of clubs they select that are associated with a single nationality. For example, I don't think we will see 4 Italian clubs, or 4 Greek clubs, or 4 Cro clubs, etc. I also reckon we won't see two clubs associated with the same nationality from the same state. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying I reckon the FA will have that line of thinking. Either way, in a FA owned and operated league, all clubs are going to be held responsible for any questionable fan behavior. They will need to be prepared to accept sanctions, points deductions, etc if their fans behave in a way that the FA don't approve of. I think you are onto something. I also think that you can't have an NST with mono ethnic clubs that are overwhelmingly from just 3 nationalities, ala NSL. Won't work. Many will be disappointed. Agreed, they should have a quota 4 x Greek Clubs, 4 x Croatian clubs, 3 x Italian clubs, 1 x Maltese, 1 x Northern Macedonian, 1 x Turkish, 1 x Serbian and 1 x Albanian..... You'd struggle to get to 3 Italian clubs these days. Marconi, Apia, Adelaide City ---- fixed :) Correct. Forgive my assumption, but The above is a very Victorian perspective. Unfortunate what’s happened in melbourne re the merger and de merger of Italian clubs chart, that essentially killed the historic connection many people felt to said clubs. Many Italians in Melbourne who have historically been heavily involved in soccer don’t believe the current iteration of Brunswick juventus to be the “real” Brunswick juventus for example. But in nsw and south Australia to this day some of the strongest clubs are Italian I think MSC quoted right from the Melb perspective, sadly, the Italian/Vic changes/mergers/infighting had watered down the once strong community, real shame but it is what it is. Yep we here in Sydney have been very fortunate both have survived despite some very challenging periods the last 17yrs. Credit to the hang in there support base and varying admin. We've seen these grand ol grounds look run down, haha more so Lambert Park still with its crappy old stand its saving grace was getting syn pitch. Its my closet ground to frequent of the 2 so I see many more APIA games. My son has played some games at good ol Bossley Park over the years taking me back to the glory days but it really hurts me seeing it look 2nd hand and the grass pitch was just rubbish. Glenardo has it improved ? for I haven't been there for about 2yrs then add in covid. Importantly the ities are strong and despite their ups and downs ladder wise they keep on keeping on. Damn those huge Australia Cup APIA wins @ Leichardt were great nights ! Lads, the identity of Brunswick Juve might be bogged down in he said/ she said but there are still plenty of good Italian folks in local football.. Bulleen Lions for example (they where once upon a time the "owners" of the Zebra heritage - he he) Have a massive (in numbers) club, their own facility and now, with the North/East Link works going on around them, some commitment and funds from the council to improve their facilities.... They have stated they are NOT looking at joining the NST NOW but look out for them in the next 5-7 years I reckon they will grow. re MSC, without going too deep into it; well aware of the going’s on at both Brunswick juventus and Bulleen lions, having lived in both Sydney and Melbourne, and knowing people heavily involved with both clubs. No doubt they’re both solid clubs, but with all due respect to them. Which Brunswick Juventus? The one that won the court case or lost it? 🤔😜 The original, the new one, the one that lost the court case, juventus old boys, all of the above hahah Well, from memory, let's see...we've got..(or had) Original Brusnwick Juventus with the juniors at Sumner park. Current Brunswick Juventus (nee Moreland zebras) Sumner park Juventus? Melbourne zebras/Raiders - Thomastown Whittlesea Zebras - Moreland city?
Bulleen Zebras (nee Bulleen Inter Kings) were they a splinter group?
Mirabella Juventus ? 😁
Gonna have to dig up the chart again. But it broke up after a few years due to egos tussling for control within both parties And they were Italian you say? Crazy Haha I know, hard to fathom. Well like said, great to see that the NSW and SA Italian clubs ( Marconi, APIA and adelaide city) have survived and are looking like strong candidates to get back on the national stage where they belong in the NSD Italian fans in Melbourne can always get behind Avondale . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Plenty of room in the Bunnings shelter. 
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Tomorrow is deadline day... Does anyone know if they will publish a list of ALL EOI or at least the number of clubs that submited and paid the fee?
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