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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThere are many things we could copy from the MLS... however a closed competition is not one.... Football's history in the US is different to Australia, we have had it much better..... further the US media market is very different with local issues mostly trumping national issues... Last year i.e. 2022, with 28 teams, the media broadcast deal for MLS was 65 million, another 25 million to the national body sides... they generated 1.85 billion in revenue with a dead set crap media deal spread over three networks with constant cancellations... i.e. 65 million as a percentage of 1.85 billion is 3.7%... this year revenue is expected to be over 2.3 billion with 29 teams and a new 300 million media deal... The MLS have built themselves off crowds and fans.... Nothing I see from APL addresses the crowds.... Maybe the "festival of football" prior to the Sydney GF will help? As we discussed a couple of weeks ago, it started off as work and when from there but I analysed the MLS from a business perspective... Please don't bite and see MLS and see a red flag.... The MLS realised they needed crowds to grow and expand... meaning they had to make the fans happy... Hand on heart not the other thing, no one in pre NSL, during NSL, and in the A-L has had a plan to get crowds over 15K with an average around 20K....and played over 32 to 36 weeks at least....in fact the new NSD is also is not a discussion point.... What we do have in common with the MLS or should I say had in common was poor crowds and a short season.... Whether is the NSD or the A_L or a new body... the management that can lift crowd numbers to 15K plus over a 32 + round season gets my vote... sadly I can't see Main Stream Australia getting onboard with single ethnic based clubs no matter how successful or inclusive... nor can I see a competition were key decisions made outside Football people will work either i.e. stadiums... Some new thinking is required... IMO we should hand it over to a 28 to 35 year old and get old white men with set in train thoughts out of the way... see WSW boss as a prime example... Im all for APL doing whatever makes it, and its consumers happy but it has to stay out of the way of REAL soccer in this country now. Who knew I wasn't even watching real soccer    Looks bloody real to me 10,000 people in Adelaide will watch us try cement second spot/catch a faltering City tomorrow night. 20,000+ will be doing the same at the Sydney derby Saturday. I’ll be watching both and I’ll be loving it because this season has been genuinely entertaining with great football being played by the best players in the country. That’s 30,000+ at two games who do not log in to Inside Sport’s secret forums who are going to have a great night. Food for thought. Dont know about the second clip mate, looks more like floor gymnastics at the Olympics to me :P It's a clip of a just turned 17 year old who has scored 7 goals in a calendar year for a goal every 86 minutes played. Some day you may even pretend to support him playing for the Socceroos With backflips like that it wont be hard to pretend :) Not sure I follow but I assume you are being positive (given its you) Hahahah Im not the big bad wolf I make out to be I like both Goodwin and Irunkunda (who I have already supported playing for the Joeys) :P yeah yeah I know. I've just come back to work, ergo the forum, after a week off. I saw the headline and my only thought was "oh god do i dare bother to open this thread?" Anyway you can call the clubs plastics, the board racist but don't tell me the week in/week out is not real soccer.
The 200 odd professional Australian players and thousands of kids and old boys in the stands each weekend don't make the decisions. Was saying the same thing in 2004 but we had to have a "revolution".... who knew the tables would turn eh? :) That doesn't make heaps of sense but it DOES say a lot about you. See, a trait I value highly in a fellow human is when you experience something bad and see it happen to other people you have an easy and instinctual tendency to empathise. Your reaction is to berate and laugh at the disappointed "kids and old boys" because you have waiting in a dark corner dreaming of revenge for 20 years. How have the tables turned? The same "kids and old boys" that didn't make the decision then are not making the decisions now yet you want to make them the subject of your ire? Not to mention nobody claimed the NSL games were not the sport of soccer. Make some sense instead of trying to just make the same point 100 times a day My take is that the NSL was an absolute clownshow.... the NPL not much better, the Aleague (despite 4-5 years of promise) is proving to be a bigger shitshow PONZI scheme than the rest..... Oh and the "tables have turned" because getting rid of "us" was supposed to make "you" so much more professional...... doesn't look like it just now, does it? Nah. The A league outperforms the NSL in every metric. Crowds, stadiums, coverage, investments, imports, sponsors many times over. It’s had some woes over the last few years, mostly due to covid, but you cant deny that A league at its worst, most frail and vulnerable, is still a better competition than the NSL was at its absolute best.
You have a choice mono. You can choose to be a bitter miserable prick who wishes death to the A league and shits on every positive development, or you can let go of your anti white anglo hating prejudice and support football.
Imagine if the NSL was canvassing $25 million for new licenses. The entire league was worth less than $1 million. Professional level football in Australia has made monumental strides over the last two decades, and we have insular backward clubs like South stepping aside to thank for that.
Hmm so are you saying that the Aleague is only for white anglos??? Your posts are a little confusing... Good luck to you Danny and the APL with the "building a club in a box and finding an investor for it" for 25 mill.... Ill be cheering on its "death" with glee. Reackon the oners of Victory would have a clearer "take" on expansion than you. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/joe-mirabella-07006126_apl-confirms-expansion-of-the-a-league-with-activity-7042270824426323968-z46I?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios Sure, in the medium long term p and r is where it's at, I think EVERYBODY including Townsend and APL knows that. Everyone! However it isn't as easy as just introducing p and r, given the NST hasn't even started yet. Who knows how it will go? Which clubs will success and which will flop? We don't want to be in a predicament where GC Knights with their millionaire owner and 500 seat stadium win promotion to the A league at the expense of Victory. So.. in the meantime the A league can expand into key and under represented markets, and and the NST can do it's thing, and then in a few years we can all sit around a table to decide what to do next, rather than this approach of everyone looking into their fake crystal balls and making fake predictions about the future. I'm stoked about Canberra and Auckland entering the A league, I can see 2024-25 being a big year for it. Two new teams, new derby, 26 home and away rounds, hopefully the WU stadium is underway, everyone back playing at their spiritual homes after years of transience and upheaval.
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+xCanberra will comfortably be in the top 6 teams in terms of membership and attendances. A very low bar, but they will be well set up from the off. They have had plans in place for over 4 years i believe. An A-league level stadium is already there, and id imagine this will help with a push for a new stadium too. Auckland is a no-brainer. Big city, immediate rivalry, great stadiums to choose from to call home (Mount smart would be amazing). With 1.5 million people in the city, if they can gather 1% of them as an average crowd they will lead the league in attendance. Responding to things a page at a time: I thought of telling you were dreaming, but based off this season alone, we would only need to break 6k average attendance to hit top half of the league Comparison of other Canberras
Raiders 2022 - 12620
Brumbies 2022 - Unknown (can only find opening match of season - 8000)
Canberra United 2022-23 - 1070 (7th in league)
Cosmos 95-96 (first season) - 2933 Cosmos 00-01 (final season) - 2183
i think in this day and age, 5-6k is much more achievable than thought of actually..
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+xAnyone with some inside info greatly appreciated... Just on the two teams and why they would pay 25 million each, I assume based on future projections, especially the broadcast deal... The reason for this post is because APL said and lets assume it was not a lie to get them off the hook on the GF move.. but APL said, P + said, Football did not reach target numbers... so payment was reduced... There would have been a lot of changes over the past 8 to 9 months... but worth analysis or certainty worthy of discussion is the June 2022 Australian streaming numbers ... Streaming data as of June last year.. Netflix (6.3 million) remained the top SVOD provider at the end of June 22, followed by Amazon Prime Video (4.1 million), Disney+ (3.0 million), Stan (2.5 million), Kayo Sports (1.3 million), Binge (1.3 million), Paramount+ (1.1 million) and Optus Sport (1.0 million) https://www.telsyte.com.au/announce...inment-defies-rising-cost-of-living-pressuresOne thing that stood out for me was Kayo Sports has heaps of sports.... and 1.3 million plus whats ever is left on Fox.... Optus with only Football EPL & Champions League has 1 million.... But with P + having, 1.1 million subs, it difficult to think it grew that quickly without huge numbers of Football folk... How many of the Paramount+ subs would have the add on Aleague sub though mate??? (Genuine question, sorry I dont know if it is one and the same) I guess they can tell, as it is a streaming service, at any given time what everyone is weatching... If 1.1 million people were streaming an Aleague game Im sue they would have not been talking about disappointing uptake from football? Whats impressiver to me is that Kaya and Optus are fairly similar in number DESPITE Kayo having amny sports and Optus pretty much 95% of its subs just for football (Im being very very very generous about 5% subs for the fitness vids).
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+x+xAnyone with some inside info greatly appreciated... Just on the two teams and why they would pay 25 million each, I assume based on future projections, especially the broadcast deal... The reason for this post is because APL said and lets assume it was not a lie to get them off the hook on the GF move.. but APL said, P + said, Football did not reach target numbers... so payment was reduced... There would have been a lot of changes over the past 8 to 9 months... but worth analysis or certainty worthy of discussion is the June 2022 Australian streaming numbers ... Streaming data as of June last year.. Netflix (6.3 million) remained the top SVOD provider at the end of June 22, followed by Amazon Prime Video (4.1 million), Disney+ (3.0 million), Stan (2.5 million), Kayo Sports (1.3 million), Binge (1.3 million), Paramount+ (1.1 million) and Optus Sport (1.0 million) https://www.telsyte.com.au/announce...inment-defies-rising-cost-of-living-pressuresOne thing that stood out for me was Kayo Sports has heaps of sports.... and 1.3 million plus whats ever is left on Fox.... Optus with only Football EPL & Champions League has 1 million.... But with P + having, 1.1 million subs, it difficult to think it grew that quickly without huge numbers of Football folk... How many of the Paramount+ subs would have the add on Aleague sub though mate??? (Genuine question, sorry I dont know if it is one and the same) I guess they can tell, as it is a streaming service, at any given time what everyone is weatching... If 1.1 million people were streaming an Aleague game Im sue they would have not been talking about disappointing uptake from football? Whats impressiver to me is that Kaya and Optus are fairly similar in number DESPITE Kayo having amny sports and Optus pretty much 95% of its subs just for football (Im being very very very generous about 5% subs for the fitness vids). $9 a month includes everything on Paramount
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Those June 22 streaming stats to me say a lot especially about the EPL...
Put into a list
Netflix (6.3 million)... is rumoured they have lost viewers...
Amazon Prime Video (4.1 million),
Disney+ (3.0 million),
Stan (2.5 million),
Kayo Sports (1.3 million),
Binge (1.3 million),
Paramount+ (1.1 million
Optus Sport (1.0 million)
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+xWilling to make the call now: there will never be promotion and relegation in the A League. It will be akin to the United States, where second division clubs can apply to the join the A League. We don’t often agree on things Charlied, but you are bang on the money here. A League owners will simply threaten to walk if there is ever a prospect of their team being relegated. The best thing that can happen from here is that the NSD is better supported than the A League and the A League folds. The A League peaked in the first few seasons of WSW, and has been headed downhill ever since.
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Anyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.”
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+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team.
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+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade.
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+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Support the NST and the NPL. Until the A League make a genuine integration attempt they are not in my perview. Still watch on Paramount and Channel 10 when I can, but not attending games as such. Will be going to a couple of NPL games this year for the first time. Excited to see the pyramid building upwards. Pity the powers that be can't see the benefits of connecting downwards.
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+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in.
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+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. This is why Football Australia especially JJ need to show some leadership with this. This just sends mixed messages.
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+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. Rubbish No-one's worried about another closed league They've no doubt got Silverlake Dividends due. Follow the money in any situation
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+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. I think they'll let in Auckland and Canberra as the first 2. Then the next 2 will be Auckland 2 Canberra 2. Canberra will be the battle of the cold lake derby. If it doesn't take off, they can call it the battle of the bridge because they have a bridge there. The teams will be called Southern United Definitely not Queanbeyan and Northern United Definitely not Queanbeyan. This satisfies the key criteria of the local market that you can abbreviate things and drop them in conversation. SUDQ and NUDQ. They will add a + after depending on demand. Each guernsey will feature a compass with a circle around either the S or N to differentiate them. Market research shows that 200% of respondents know what a compass is. This is proof that it's a good idea for a brand. Auckland derby will fight it out to see who is the best Australasian.
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+x+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. This is why Football Australia especially JJ need to show some leadership with this. This just sends mixed messages. Yeah it will be at least 3-5 seasons before p and r is even thinkable as the nst will be new. Apl will probably succeed with delaying tactics to push it back a couple more years. So my guess is 2028-2030 for p and r if both leagues go well enough
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Barca4Life
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. This is why Football Australia especially JJ need to show some leadership with this. This just sends mixed messages. Yeah it will be at least 3-5 seasons before p and r is even thinkable as the nst will be new. Apl will probably succeed with delaying tactics to push it back a couple more years. So my guess is 2028-2030 for p and r if both leagues go well enough That's why some sort of blueprint or roadmap for this stuff would be useful right now, otherwise we are just speculating what could happen next. Direction is required from them especially when the NSD gets created, it really needs direction after that.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. This is why Football Australia especially JJ need to show some leadership with this. This just sends mixed messages. Yeah it will be at least 3-5 seasons before p and r is even thinkable as the nst will be new. Apl will probably succeed with delaying tactics to push it back a couple more years. So my guess is 2028-2030 for p and r if both leagues go well enough That's why some sort of blueprint or roadmap for this stuff would be useful right now, otherwise we are just speculating what could happen next. Direction is required from them especially when the NSD gets created, it really needs direction after that. Jj seems a bit conservative and will probably want at least one season of the nst (assuming it goes ahead) before making a roadmap. Certainly there will be no commitment to p and r before we have a decision what the nst will look like
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bettega
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+x+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. Rubbish No-one's worried about another closed league They've no doubt got Silverlake Dividends due. Follow the money in any situation You say rubbish - but then you mention Silverlake. So I take it you're actually agreeing with what I said in the first place?!
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bettega
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+x+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. This is why Football Australia especially JJ need to show some leadership with this. This just sends mixed messages. But this is the point. There is no mixed message on the part of the APL. They are sending the exact message they are intending to send. It's not ambiguous at all.
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I think the Sunshine Coast with the upgrades coming by 2027 is likely for the 15th slot. 16th team up for grabs.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyone else heard anything about this?
”According to several reports, South East Queensland appears destined to obtain one of two future A-League expansion licenses in 2025-26. This would follow the entry of Canberra and Auckland a season prior in 2024-25, which was announced earlier this week. Gold Coast and a second Brisbane team appear set as the primary contenders, with Sunshine Coast touted as a hopeful outlier. Each option has its pros and cons, which will be examined here.” Townsend has said recently these next two expansion teams were for new markets and the next two for derbies. You would think for derbies, being another Brisbane or Gold Coast team. SEQ fans: “Do I start supporting an NST side, or just wait to see what happens with a second Brisbane ALeague team?” Same for sponsors. Such mixed messages. All these new expansion teams paying 8 figure fees is a guarantee of no P/R this decade. Precisely why the APL is rushing 4 clubs in. Rubbish No-one's worried about another closed league They've no doubt got Silverlake Dividends due. Follow the money in any situation You say rubbish - but then you mention Silverlake. So I take it you're actually agreeing with what I said in the first place?! Sure, if thats what you meant.
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+xI think the Sunshine Coast with the upgrades coming by 2027 is likely for the 15th slot. 16th team up for grabs. I chose them as part of my select 14 in the NST. It is not inconceivable that they are upgraded to the APL from the NST. Strong candidates also include: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United and Brisbane United. Brisbane City is my tip if that is the case, mainly due to their experience in top flight, albeit a long time ago, finances and the requirement for a derby. Their ground is being upgraded as a training venue for the WWC as well.
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bettega
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+x+xI think the Sunshine Coast with the upgrades coming by 2027 is likely for the 15th slot. 16th team up for grabs. I chose them as part of my select 14 in the NST. It is not inconceivable that they are upgraded to the APL from the NST. As long as they pay the license fee.
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+x+xI think the Sunshine Coast with the upgrades coming by 2027 is likely for the 15th slot. 16th team up for grabs. I chose them as part of my select 14 in the NST. It is not inconceivable that they are upgraded to the APL from the NST. Strong candidates also include: Brisbane City, Gold Coast United and Brisbane United. Brisbane City is my tip if that is the case, mainly due to their experience in top flight, albeit a long time ago, finances and the requirement for a derby. Their ground is being upgraded as a training venue for the WWC as well. Spencer Park got scraps compared to Richlands. All they're doing is replacing the pitch and some maintenance patch ups.
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+x+x+xI think the Sunshine Coast with the upgrades coming by 2027 is likely for the 15th slot. 16th team up for grabs. I chose them as part of my select 14 in the NST. It is not inconceivable that they are upgraded to the APL from the NST. As long as they pay the license fee. That's a hurdle for any one. The fee varied last expansion
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+xNo expansion in Brisbane according to Fong  is this true? I find it hard to believe.
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+x+xNo expansion in Brisbane according to Fong is this true? I find it hard to believe. Could just be Fong playing "chicken" with APL? I believe Victory had a similar clause as in no other franchises can set up shop in the Melbourne marketing area for their first 5(7?) years. Its like what MacDonalds stores have in their licensing agreements, you cant set up shop 100 meters down the road from another Maccas and compete with them fro customers.
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bettega
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At the very start, there was a 5 year exclusionary period for each city.
But that's long past.
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Far out the APL are garbage. This announcement is so amateur and leaves such a high potential for the competition to have egg on its face (noting such an outcome is limited by the lack of mainstream media attention given to it and the entire competition at the moment anyway).
Get the A-League back in FA hands and have the club owners focus on actually fixing their own clubs first before they cause more damage.
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+xFar out the APL are garbage. This announcement is so amateur and leaves such a high potential for the competition to have egg on its face (noting such an outcome is limited by the lack of mainstream media attention given to it and the entire competition at the moment anyway). Get the A-League back in FA hands and have the club owners focus on actually fixing their own clubs first before they cause more damage. since the fa decoupled from the a league we have had steps toward a nst and the final decision on p and r not made by the a league. The expansion is plausibly at least in response to the nst. I don't think that is possible without the split. Hopefully we get a better leadership structure in the a league though
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