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+x+x+x+x+xI believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. I can’t believe I am saying this, but I reckon this is totally plausible. Not because franchises will fold, but because the destruction caused by the APL might push teams to leave. One of the first things that crossed my mind when the APL announced the Sydney GF decision was wonder whether Victory would consider joining the NSD in protest. While unlikely, you can’t totally rule out yet. It may depend on who runs the NSD. We all assume FA will run it initially... but will they transfer power to the APL over time? I think it would be handed over to the APL if all the clubs were totally professional. It will be administered by Football Australia as it will be a national competition, state leagues will continue to be run by state federations. The A League will, as it stands, be administered by the APL and will continue to operate as a stand-alone league. If at some point the A League decides to become part of the pyramid then decisions will have to be made with regard to who will administer the top one or two professional leagues. James Johnson has made it clear he wants the whole football ecosystem joined so there won’t be any room for closed leagues. I was not talking about what the system will be now. I was talking about when the NSD clubs are fully professional. I believe then and only then will there be P/R between the 2 professional leagues. P/R between the national third tier and the national second tier, the NSD, would continue once it is established by FA no matter what happened above that. The NST (NSD) will be fully professional and be administered by the FA as will any further tiers. The non professional state leagues will continue to be administered by the state federations. As I said, the A League is a ‘stand alone’ league and therefore not part of the football pyramid. Until such time as the APL indicates that it wishes to become a part of the football ecosystem it will operate only the A League.
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+x+x+x+x+xI believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. I can’t believe I am saying this, but I reckon this is totally plausible. Not because franchises will fold, but because the destruction caused by the APL might push teams to leave. One of the first things that crossed my mind when the APL announced the Sydney GF decision was wonder whether Victory would consider joining the NSD in protest. While unlikely, you can’t totally rule out yet. It may depend on who runs the NSD. We all assume FA will run it initially... but will they transfer power to the APL over time? I think it would be handed over to the APL if all the clubs were totally professional. It will be administered by Football Australia as it will be a national competition, state leagues will continue to be run by state federations. The A League will, as it stands, be administered by the APL and will continue to operate as a stand-alone league. If at some point the A League decides to become part of the pyramid then decisions will have to be made with regard to who will administer the top one or two professional leagues. James Johnson has made it clear he wants the whole football ecosystem joined so there won’t be any room for closed leagues. I was not talking about what the system will be now. I was talking about when the NSD clubs are fully professional. I believe then and only then will there be P/R between the 2 professional leagues. P/R between the national third tier and the national second tier, the NSD, would continue once it is established by FA no matter what happened above that. The NST clubs will be fully pro from the beginning. The FA have stated it as a requirement of entry.
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+x+x+x+xI believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. I can’t believe I am saying this, but I reckon this is totally plausible. Not because franchises will fold, but because the destruction caused by the APL might push teams to leave. One of the first things that crossed my mind when the APL announced the Sydney GF decision was wonder whether Victory would consider joining the NSD in protest. While unlikely, you can’t totally rule out yet. It may depend on who runs the NSD. We all assume FA will run it initially... but will they transfer power to the APL over time? I think it would be handed over to the APL if all the clubs were totally professional. It will be administered by Football Australia as it will be a national competition, state leagues will continue to be run by state federations. The A League will, as it stands, be administered by the APL and will continue to operate as a stand-alone league. If at some point the A League decides to become part of the pyramid then decisions will have to be made with regard to who will administer the top one or two professional leagues. James Johnson has made it clear he wants the whole football ecosystem joined so there won’t be any room for closed leagues. I was not talking about what the system will be now. I was talking about when the NSD clubs are fully professional. I believe then and only then will there be P/R between the 2 professional leagues. P/R between the national third tier and the national second tier, the NSD, would continue once it is established by FA no matter what happened above that.
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+x...also, looking forward to GK Knights, Sydney Croatia and Melbourne Croatia ALL in the one national league .... hahahahah the outrage will be hilarious...... https://twitter.com/gcknightsfc/status/1627601519809040385?s=20The Cro Cup will be huge the coming years hahaha
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+x+x...also, looking forward to GK Knights, Sydney Croatia and Melbourne Croatia ALL in the one national league .... hahahahah the outrage will be hilarious...... Perth SC have announced today they will NOT be submitting an EOI. RD always add the sauce please https://twitter.com/perthsoccerclub/status/1627807918417657857?s=46&t=0cZyGqaIHolVYI_brv0U9A
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+x+x+xI believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. I can’t believe I am saying this, but I reckon this is totally plausible. Not because franchises will fold, but because the destruction caused by the APL might push teams to leave. One of the first things that crossed my mind when the APL announced the Sydney GF decision was wonder whether Victory would consider joining the NSD in protest. While unlikely, you can’t totally rule out yet. It may depend on who runs the NSD. We all assume FA will run it initially... but will they transfer power to the APL over time? I think it would be handed over to the APL if all the clubs were totally professional. It will be administered by Football Australia as it will be a national competition, state leagues will continue to be run by state federations. The A League will, as it stands, be administered by the APL and will continue to operate as a stand-alone league. If at some point the A League decides to become part of the pyramid then decisions will have to be made with regard to who will administer the top one or two professional leagues. James Johnson has made it clear he wants the whole football ecosystem joined so there won’t be any room for closed leagues.
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+x...also, looking forward to GK Knights, Sydney Croatia and Melbourne Croatia ALL in the one national league .... hahahahah the outrage will be hilarious...... Perth SC have announced today they will NOT be submitting an EOI.
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...also, looking forward to GK Knights, Sydney Croatia and Melbourne Croatia ALL in the one national league .... hahahahah the outrage will be hilarious......
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+xEOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights2. Sunshine Coast 3. Peninsular Power Interesting 180 from GCK.. Wasn't it their president that was against the notion the NSD would be financially viable (that the usual suspects jumped on with glee) and they would not be involved in anything like it???? Apologies to any Knights fans If I remember it wrong .... Great to see the EOIs starting to filter through..... I am anticipating a fairly decent number will be on this lsit by the end of next week :) Lets Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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+x+xEOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast Peninsula Power declared too IIRC Just added
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+xEOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY 1. Gold Coast Knights 2. Sunshine Coast Peninsula Power declared too IIRC
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EOI Submitted list CONFIRMED ONLY
1. Gold Coast Knights
2. Sunshine Coast
3. Peninsular Power
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Gold Coast Knights submitted an expression of interest for the NSD...Reddit.
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+x+xI believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. I can’t believe I am saying this, but I reckon this is totally plausible. Not because franchises will fold, but because the destruction caused by the APL might push teams to leave. One of the first things that crossed my mind when the APL announced the Sydney GF decision was wonder whether Victory would consider joining the NSD in protest. While unlikely, you can’t totally rule out yet. It may depend on who runs the NSD. We all assume FA will run it initially... but will they transfer power to the APL over time? I think it would be handed over to the APL if all the clubs were totally professional.
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ROFL
The hysteria coupled with the wishfull think in this thread is so funny.
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+x+xI was referring that franchises that are expansions get their hand-held by a draft system unlike our code if they initially suffer from lack of talent. e.g. Gold Coast and GWS getting thumped for their first decade-or-so of existence. And yes I was a massive djent kid when I made this account when I was 12. Mummy and daddy should have regulated my internet access and now I play in a post-black metal band and follow football. God help me. The only helping hand the new A-League clubs received was an extra $500k in the salary cap for their first two seasons. This is to compensate for the cap exemptions and banking that the other clubs may have (eg Loyalty exemptions and Homegrown youth exemptions). Didn't WSW get extra imports as well?
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+xI was referring that franchises that are expansions get their hand-held by a draft system unlike our code if they initially suffer from lack of talent. e.g. Gold Coast and GWS getting thumped for their first decade-or-so of existence. And yes I was a massive djent kid when I made this account when I was 12. Mummy and daddy should have regulated my internet access and now I play in a post-black metal band and follow football. God help me. The only helping hand the new A-League clubs received was an extra $500k in the salary cap for their first two seasons. This is to compensate for the cap exemptions and banking that the other clubs may have (eg Loyalty exemptions and Homegrown youth exemptions).
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+xI believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. I can’t believe I am saying this, but I reckon this is totally plausible. Not because franchises will fold, but because the destruction caused by the APL might push teams to leave. One of the first things that crossed my mind when the APL announced the Sydney GF decision was wonder whether Victory would consider joining the NSD in protest. While unlikely, you can’t totally rule out yet. It may depend on who runs the NSD. We all assume FA will run it initially... but will they transfer power to the APL over time?
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+xAnd yes I was a massive djent kid when I made this account when I was 12. Mummy and daddy should have regulated my internet access and now I play in a post-black metal band and follow football. God help me. Easy on the sarcasm fella, it was just a joke. I'm a guitarist myself and played in bands. Maybe not post-black metal but still.
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I was referring that franchises that are expansions get their hand-held by a draft system unlike our code if they initially suffer from lack of talent. e.g. Gold Coast and GWS getting thumped for their first decade-or-so of existence. And yes I was a massive djent kid when I made this account when I was 12. Mummy and daddy should have regulated my internet access and now I play in a post-black metal band and follow football. God help me.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? and that's why we need a NSD, not more a-league teams. those players need to be developed. you cant got from 0-100 instantly. the clubs also need to develop the resources to make that happen. the clubs need to be sustainable and profitable for that to be possible. that will never happen the way things are. if you add more teams, the quality of the league will eventually stall or go backwards (or not exist at all). +x+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? Agreed. Professionalism will naturally change the power gap which has over-time, narrowed significantly. Whether clubs can sustain it by developing their own talent instead of tanking for draft picks is a different story. Does Aleague have a "draft" like NFL and AFL? Serious question, is there any benefit to an A league club finishing the regular season last? Do they get a salary cap boost or something? No. Just a big fat no. All that djent music has broken his brain
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? and that's why we need a NSD, not more a-league teams. those players need to be developed. you cant got from 0-100 instantly. the clubs also need to develop the resources to make that happen. the clubs need to be sustainable and profitable for that to be possible. that will never happen the way things are. if you add more teams, the quality of the league will eventually stall or go backwards (or not exist at all). +x+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? Agreed. Professionalism will naturally change the power gap which has over-time, narrowed significantly. Whether clubs can sustain it by developing their own talent instead of tanking for draft picks is a different story. Does Aleague have a "draft" like NFL and AFL? Serious question, is there any benefit to an A league club finishing the regular season last? Do they get a salary cap boost or something? No, the Draft is for mono-culture sports.
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+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? Yup, pretty much this.... Its why half decent NPL talent is forced to go overseas to often shittier leagues than the Aleague like the IPL.. If they could be full time pro they wouldn't leave our shores. https://twitter.com/JamshedpurFC/status/1626949723763675136
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+x+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? and that's why we need a NSD, not more a-league teams. those players need to be developed. you cant got from 0-100 instantly. the clubs also need to develop the resources to make that happen. the clubs need to be sustainable and profitable for that to be possible. that will never happen the way things are. if you add more teams, the quality of the league will eventually stall or go backwards (or not exist at all). +x+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? Agreed. Professionalism will naturally change the power gap which has over-time, narrowed significantly. Whether clubs can sustain it by developing their own talent instead of tanking for draft picks is a different story. Does Aleague have a "draft" like NFL and AFL? Serious question, is there any benefit to an A league club finishing the regular season last? Do they get a salary cap boost or something?
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+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? and that's why we need a NSD, not more a-league teams. those players need to be developed. you cant got from 0-100 instantly. the clubs also need to develop the resources to make that happen. the clubs need to be sustainable and profitable for that to be possible. that will never happen the way things are. if you add more teams, the quality of the league will eventually stall or go backwards (or not exist at all).
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+x+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you? Agreed. Professionalism will naturally change the power gap which has over-time, narrowed significantly. Whether clubs can sustain it by developing their own talent instead of tanking for draft picks is a different story.
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+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. Can't agree with this. I'm a big believer in there are hundreds of guns that could play at A League standard if given a full time environment in football. You try going to work as a carpenter or plumber 5 days a week and then turn up to training 3 nights a week. You're hardly going to be at your best are you?
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+x+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases. AFL is your game, see ya.
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+x+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series. +x+x+xThis feels like a cluster****, on one side the FA are going on with the NSD process and on the other side the APL are wanting to expand the league to 16 teams? What about a blueprint for the future of the professional game instead? Which should include the prospect of introducing promotion and relegation with all parties working together to grow the game rather than each one doing its own thing? This badly needs direction, but once again Australian football in a confused state with not only with a lack of direction but also it seems to be a lack of unity as well. Maybe we should have looked at Japan and how they did the J-League pyramid, again we don't seem keen to learn from others. It's just desparation from the AL clubs. Facing the prospect of a second division which will in all likelyhood have a tiny fraction of the licensing fees of the AL. The license fees will probably be to cover the shared operating expenses of the league, not the utterly fictious valutation of a license nominated by the AL which is copying the MLS's ponzi scheme as well as a street vendor's Rollex. This is their last gasp attempt to suck out whatever latent investment is around before they have a choice with the extremely high cost AL and the low buy in NSD. Anyone with that sort of play money isn't going to scare themselves into paying 30 million to meet AL's deadline. Boiler room bullshit. I believe that the NSD (NST) will become the top tier within 5 years as A league franchises fold or opt to join the less costly league. Then the re alignment of the pyramid will begin in earnest. +xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks in the current environment we already have too many teams. 10 a-league teams would be sufficient keeping the standard of football as high as possible. A further 10 in NSD. Numbers could be increased once both league become sustainable and the talent pool of players increases.
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+xIdeal league is 20 teams 38 weeks ...and no finals series.
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