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numklpkgulftumch - 4 Mar 2023 3:16 PM
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https://twitter.com/AAFClubs/status/1631544042403282944?cxt=HHwWgIDSrbGqtKQtAAAA

Where the hell would they play?
these clubs span almost all of Adelaide
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I just realised it would be Gepps Cross or maybe Marden
Ugh oh well
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Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 10:40 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 4 Mar 2023 3:16 PM

Where the hell would they play?
these clubs span almost all of Adelaide

As I understand it, the clubs aren't merging in any way.  Same as Brisbane United.

Named Clubs are members of a new entity, presumably providing the financial security etc the FA criteria will demand

So, its really an FSA bid, probably at the Gepps Cross centre



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numklpkgulftumch - 6 Mar 2023 11:01 AM


Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 10:40 AM

As I understand it, the clubs aren't merging in any way.  Same as Brisbane United.

Named Clubs are members of a new entity, presumably providing the financial security etc the FA criteria will demand

So, its really an FSA bid, probably at the Gepps Cross centre



Yeah I realised that and posted the same a minute later. It's  nice enough little facility with room to do more.

I have just always hoped Campbelltown would get a sugar daddy, step up and build a few extra stands just coz it's my local club.

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Definite shades of Port/Crows here with a black and white team vs a state team aha
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numklpkgulftumch - 6 Mar 2023 11:01 AM


Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 10:40 AM

As I understand it, the clubs aren't merging in any way.  Same as Brisbane United.

Named Clubs are members of a new entity, presumably providing the financial security etc the FA criteria will demand

So, its really an FSA bid, probably at the Gepps Cross centre



Another question. 

How many fans will jump on board a new "neutral" team? 
AUFC is a neutral team, so fans can watch then in the Aleague. 
Why would these new teams get new fans??
A few interested passers by... Sure. 

But I really don't know how this will work. 


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Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 11:25 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 6 Mar 2023 11:01 AM

Another question. 

How many fans will jump on board a new "neutral" team? 
AUFC is a neutral team, so fans can watch then in the Aleague. 
Why would these new teams get new fans??
A few interested passers by... Sure. 

But I really don't know how this will work. 


Would be dead in the water as far as attracting fans you'd think.
Maybe they don't care and its just a "juniors state team" with a view for greater exposure to our pretty impressive playing pool these days.
No idea
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Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 12:17 PM
Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 11:25 AM

Would be dead in the water as far as attracting fans you'd think.
Maybe they don't care and its just a "juniors state team" with a view for greater exposure to our pretty impressive playing pool these days.
No idea

Yeah. .
Which fans would be attracted to a new team in the second tier competition.??

Let's see what happens 


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Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 12:48 PM
Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 12:17 PM

Yeah. .
Which fans would be attracted to a new team in the second tier competition.??

Let's see what happens 


Curious, as an AU supporter, would you follow them in a casual capacity if they were the only SA based NST team?
A-League in Summer, NST in Winter.
Maybe, they are banking on picking up Reds fans who just want to watch more football.
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Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 12:48 PM
Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 12:17 PM

Yeah. .
Which fans would be attracted to a new team in the second tier competition.??

Let's see what happens 


Playing during the AL off season will help but otherwise.

But without P/R the lower half will struggle is my guess.

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Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 12:48 PM
Davide82 - 6 Mar 2023 12:17 PM

Yeah. .
Which fans would be attracted to a new team in the second tier competition.??

Let's see what happens 


yeah
Would be dead in the water as far as attracting fans you'd think.


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someguyjc - 6 Mar 2023 1:08 PM
Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 12:48 PM

Curious, as an AU supporter, would you follow them in a casual capacity if they were the only SA based NST team?
A-League in Summer, NST in Winter.
Maybe, they are banking on picking up Reds fans who just want to watch more football.

As in no Adelaide City as well?

Either way I would follow one or both in a very casual capacity of course if "casual" means checking scores, watching highlights etc

I imagine most a-league fans will at least do that though

I would probably go to a game or two as a casual observer if the time and venue was right but these days even the 14 United games a year can be tough to get to.

Maybe when my daughter is less of a hassle to take to games and presumably there would be more mid-afternoon games too which would be good
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AL during summer for many barring the diehards is I have a bbq or the beach or another commitment for starters.
Winter is a different kettle of fish.
In saying that its all too much crystal ball stuff for now, who's on 1st whats on 2nd, we haven't even got to the start of the 2nd process stage upon X Clubs throwing in $25k.



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EOI Submitted list

FA CONFIRMED

1. Gold Coast Knights
2. Sunshine Coast
3. Peninsula Power
4. Sydney Olympic
5. Brisbane Olympic
6. Rockdale Illinden
7. Preston Lions
8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt
9. Brisbane City
10. Canberra Croatia
11. Heidelberg United
12. Adelaide City
13. Gungahlin United
14. Brisbane United
15. Marconi
16. South Melbourne
17. South Hobart
18. Melbourne Knights
19. Brunswick Juventus
20. Avondale
21. Gold Coast United
22. SU58
23. Wollongong Wolves
24. Bentleigh Greens
25. Football South Australia
26. Blacktown City
27. Fraser Park
28. Sutherland/Cronulla Sharks
29. Valentine
30. Playford City
31. Green Gully
32. Spearwood/ Cockburn City



         
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Definitely wouldn't have picked Green Gully to apply. Can't imagine their venue being anywhere near up to scratch. Appreciate the ambition though.
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Oi robbos, do you ever venture to any Fraser P games at all ?
By the way, let me know how your LFC mates are :)


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Very Nice...... very, very nice....... 
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someguyjc - 6 Mar 2023 3:44 PM
Definitely wouldn't have picked Green Gully to apply. Can't imagine their venue being anywhere near up to scratch. Appreciate the ambition though.

Wouldn't tkae much for an upgrade mate... The Bistro/Pokies is going great guns, the council just finished asphalting their carpark, all it would take is 300-400k for some terracing on the far side and some seats..... a quick whip around at the social club would bring this mighty club back :)
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Hard to believe there aren’t at least ten clubs here out of 32
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Monoethnic Social Club - 6 Mar 2023 4:00 PM
someguyjc - 6 Mar 2023 3:44 PM

Wouldn't tkae much for an upgrade mate... The Bistro/Pokies is going great guns, the council just finished asphalting their carpark, all it would take is 300-400k for some terracing on the far side and some seats..... a quick whip around at the social club would bring this mighty club back :)

Absolutely, but it's a bit of an ask within the current timeframe.
I imagine there would be quite a few clubs ahead of them on that list though. I'd still rather see Green Gully than some of the others though.
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someguyjc - 6 Mar 2023 4:07 PM
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Absolutely, but it's a bit of an ask within the current timeframe.
I imagine there would be quite a few clubs ahead of them on that list though. I'd still rather see Green Gully than some of the others though.

I agree, but at the end of the day they are brave enough to be "included" in the process, as are all 32 of these clubs/entities.... a HUGE thank you to ALL of them from me..... At least now the hard work can begin,,, even if only 10 x clubs kick start this venture the others will know EXACTLY what they have to do to get in the following season, or the one after, or the one after.... exciting time for Australian Football.... 
IMHO I am more proud of the "little clubs' that put their EOI in..... lets be real, my club is a shoe in for this but I LOVE that someone like Valentine FC or Fraser Park FC have the ambition and the cojones to be involved....... I love football in this country sometimes .... sometimes :)
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grazorblade - 6 Mar 2023 4:06 PM
Hard to believe there aren’t at least ten clubs here out of 32

agreed mate tbh 12 min for starters.
Don't read much into the naysayers.


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LFC. - 6 Mar 2023 3:45 PM
Oi robbos, do you ever venture to any Fraser P games at all ?
By the way, let me know how your LFC mates are :)

LFC mates, insufferable, they are letting me know about the result. I'm happy to see the result as maybe this shuts up the Rashford best player in the world & Ten Haag best manager in the world talk. Very very good display LFC, I've always said GK & defence (minus Joe Gomez very strong) attack yeah just brilliant, you are just short couple of really good quality midfielders to guide the quality youngsters you do have.

No never mate, my NPL team in Manly, pop down to Cromer to watch them occasionally. I have no need to feel my heritage in local football, I already have that with Ronaldo & Portugal. For food, I go to Petersham or visit mum or some of the Aunties, rest of time I'm an Aussie. 

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You'd have to be impressed with so many clubs willing to fork out at least $5k (50% of it non-refundable)

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One step closer to reality but great to see so many interested parties putting their hands up willing to join in.

Now the hard part begins on not only who will be handpicked but also fit the RFP phase as well, this will take awhile of course.

I wonder what happens if they are 16 or more are fit to join in the NSD, do the clubs that miss out get the chance to apply again for future entries?

I also wonder if Football Australia will use the champions league style format for teams that missed out on getting through direct entry and use the champions league format as a tool for promotion into the NSD via the traditional way and the teams that finish in the bottom places in the NSD get relegated into that champions league style format which makes it as the 3rd division?

That could be played between seasons of course.

So much to ponder but the possibilities are endless for me.
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doloras - 6 Mar 2023 5:05 PM
You'd have to be impressed with so many clubs willing to fork out at least $5k (50% of it non-refundable)

If they can't afford $2,500 just to have a sticky-nose, then they should not even remotely assert their interest.

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numklpkgulftumch - 6 Mar 2023 3:24 PM
EOI Submitted list

FA CONFIRMED

1. Gold Coast Knights
2. Sunshine Coast
3. Peninsula Power
4. Sydney Olympic
5. Brisbane Olympic
6. Rockdale Illinden
7. Preston Lions
8. A.P.I.A Leichhardt
9. Brisbane City
10. Canberra Croatia
11. Heidelberg United
12. Adelaide City
13. Gungahlin United
14. Brisbane United
15. Marconi
16. South Melbourne
17. South Hobart
18. Melbourne Knights
19. Brunswick Juventus
20. Avondale
21. Gold Coast United
22. SU58
23. Wollongong Wolves
24. Bentleigh Greens
25. Football South Australia
26. Blacktown City
27. Fraser Park
28. Sutherland/Cronulla Sharks
29. Valentine
30. Playford City
31. Green Gully
32. Spearwood/ Cockburn City



         

Shame there is no collective representation for the South East corner of Melbourne. Potential growth area of 1.7 mill and already have rusted on football lovers.
Surprised a great club like Manly in Sydney is not there.
Also missing is the biggest and strongest club in Queensland - Lions

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Butler99 - 6 Mar 2023 11:25 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 6 Mar 2023 11:01 AM

Another question. 

How many fans will jump on board a new "neutral" team? 
AUFC is a neutral team, so fans can watch then in the Aleague. 
Why would these new teams get new fans??
A few interested passers by... Sure. 

But I really don't know how this will work. 


Adelaide United is already "the people's team". This new team would have no real identity and end up very much like MacArthur or Western United.
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About Cockburn City, serious question how far is their homeground from the gate?




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